Originally posted by Silent Master
How is that cut and dried?
"This is to show that Thanos, the Genghis Khan of the Marvel Universe, he is unbeatable in 1-on-1 battle."
Sure, it is obviously hyperbolic but considering he brings up Thor immediately afterwards and says Thanos is the "more polished" fighter it pretty clearly is referring to Thor (at least as of this time) as well.
Originally posted by ares834
"This is to show that Thanos, the Genghis Khan of the Marvel Universe, he is unbeatable in 1-on-1 battle."Sure, it is obviously hyperbolic but considering he brings up Thor immediately afterwards and says Thanos is the "more polished" fighter it pretty clearly is referring to Thor (at least as of this time) as well.
Again, even if we accepted interviews. neither being the Genghis Khan of the Marvel Universe or a more polished fighter is proof that someone would win. so again, How is that cut and dried?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Due to being cheapshotted and not ready for it, sure. Ok?My point about what? I make several points so which statement.
Yes, at the end. Thanos just got done with two avengers type throw downs yet you completely bypass that but highlight Thor being Thanos helpless captured princess despite not knowing what actually happened. You are biased for Thor we get it. He gets crushed by Thanos.
No, you're getting confused. You said Thor's cheapshot didn't do anything to Thanos. I'm asking if Thor used lightning for that specific cheapshot you mentioned.
As for the lightning strike at the end, bottom line is Thanos was unable to stand till the lightning strike was over, which means my comparison of Spiderman is valid. If you don't think Thor's lightning strikes can hurt Thanos using your logic, then that means you also don't believe Thanos can hurt Spiderman with his punches.
Originally posted by FrothByteIn the later cheapshot not in the earlier fight.
No, you're getting confused. You said Thor's cheapshot didn't do anything to Thanos. I'm asking if Thor used lightning for that specific cheapshot you mentioned.As for the lightning strike at the end, bottom line is Thanos was unable to stand till the lightning strike was over, which means my comparison of Spiderman is valid. If you don't think Thor's lightning strikes can hurt Thanos using your logic, then that means you also don't believe Thanos can hurt Spiderman with his punches.
So? Are you sguuesting Thor could defeat Thanos with a simple lightning blast if he kept firing? What if he kept blasting Hela she went flying too when she was caught off guard but Thor acted like it did nothing. You seem to ignore common sense and Thors own statements in support of your h1 level prove me wrong stance despite common sense smacking you in the face.
No, that is silly for a host pf pretty obvious reasons.
1. Thanos strength can hurt Spider-Man since less has in the pf Cap.
2. Thors lightning has never defeated anyone on Hulks level let alone Thanos.
3. Thor himself does not seem to think his lightning can defeat Thanos he specifically mentions the axe.
4. You believe all Thor needs is his lightning to defeat the strongest being in the entire universe because if knocked him down with a cheapshot attack.
😂
Slap yourself in the face.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, even if we accepted interviews. neither being the Genghis Khan of the Marvel Universe or a more polished fighter is proof that someone would win. so again, How is that cut and dried?
But "he is unbeatable in 1-on-1 battle" does.
Regardless, even if we wish to dismiss the director's statements, we have Thanos absolutely man-handling and stomping Hulk. Based on Ragnarok, that's well beyond what even Thor is capable of.
Anyway, re-watching the Thanos/Hulk, after Thanos stomps Hulk; Thor attacks Thanos by hitting him with a beam from behind. It doesn't even phase Thanos and Thanos then dismisses Thor with a simple kick. This is a mismatch.
Originally posted by quanchi112
In the later cheapshot not in the earlier fight.So? Are you sguuesting Thor could defeat Thanos with a simple lightning blast if he kept firing? What if he kept blasting Hela she went flying too when she was caught off guard but Thor acted like it did nothing. You seem to ignore common sense and Thors own statements in support of your h1 level prove me wrong stance despite common sense smacking you in the face.
No, that is silly for a host pf pretty obvious reasons.
1. Thanos strength can hurt Spider-Man since less has in the pf Cap.
2. Thors lightning has never defeated anyone on Hulks level let alone Thanos.
3. Thor himself does not seem to think his lightning can defeat Thanos he specifically mentions the axe.
4. You believe all Thor needs is his lightning to defeat the strongest being in the entire universe because if knocked him down with a cheapshot attack.😂
Slap yourself in the face.
1. Yet Cap never made any lasting damage on Spiderman, so your logic is flawed.
2. Thanos has never tanked a destructive forced strong enough to punch holes through multiple leviathans or cause acres of destructiom with a single hit.
3. He does not think he can defeat Thanos WITH THE IG. I know you're quite stupid, but please do try to keep up.
4. Thanos without the IG is not the most powerful being in the universe, please don't make stuff up.
Originally posted by ares834
But "he is unbeatable in 1-on-1 battle" does.Regardless, even if we wish to dismiss the director's statements, we have Thanos absolutely man-handling and stomping Hulk. Based on Ragnarok, that's well beyond what even Thor is capable of.
Anyway, re-watching the Thanos/Hulk, after Thanos stomps Hulk; Thor attacks Thanos by hitting him with a beam from behind. It doesn't even phase Thanos and Thanos then dismisses Thor with a simple kick. This is a mismatch.
No, him stating his opinion isn't actually proof. It's just him stating his opinion.
Wrong, Ragnarok proved that 1 for 1 Thor's lightning punches have far more effect than Thanos's. If you disagree I would be more than happy to Battle Zone.
Originally posted by FrothByte
1. Yet Cap never made any lasting damage on Spiderman, so your logic is flawed.
2. Thanos has never tanked a destructive forced strong enough to punch holes through multiple leviathans or cause acres of destructiom with a single hit.
3. He does not think he can defeat Thanos WITH THE IG. I know you're quite stupid, but please do try to keep up.
4. Thanos without the IG is not the most powerful being in the universe, please don't make stuff up.
1. He clearly affected him. Cap candefinitely hurt Spider-Man. Thanos was most afffected at all nor did Thor act like his lightning could do anything significantly to Thanos.
2. Hulk easily stopped a leviathan you nitwit with hardly any momentum. Hylkcame full force and hit Thanos multiple times and then Thanos stomped him. Watch the movies and try to grasp what is going on. Collateral damage does not mean greater power,twit.
3. That is when he hit Thanos with the ig. For ****s sake did you watch the film?
4. Most powerful villain according to the filmmakers. Unlike you I back my claims with weighted evidence. You say lightning prove me wrong like a clown. That is a joke.
Thanos alsoeasily blocks lightning with the gauntlet. See how he handled Tonys repulsed rays. Even with a cheapshot Thor did no real damage. He needed the axe yet still failed despite hurling it into Thanos.
Pitiful tbh.
Originally posted by quanchi112
1. He clearly affected him. Cap candefinitely hurt Spider-Man. Thanos was most afffected at all nor did Thor act like his lightning could do anything significantly to Thanos.2. Hulk easily stopped a leviathan you nitwit with hardly any momentum. Hylkcame full force and hit Thanos multiple times and then Thanos stomped him. Watch the movies and try to grasp what is going on. Collateral damage does not mean greater power,twit.
3. That is when he hit Thanos with the ig. For ****s sake did you watch the film?
4. Most powerful villain according to the filmmakers. Unlike you I back my claims with weighted evidence. You say lightning prove me wrong like a clown. That is a joke.
Thanos alsoeasily blocks lightning with the gauntlet. See how he handled Tonys repulsed rays. Even with a cheapshot Thor did no real damage. He needed the axe yet still failed despite hurling it into Thanos.
Pitiful tbh.
1. Really? What proof do you have that Cap hurt Spiderman? Is it because he knocked him off his feet?
2. Hulk stopped a leviathan but didn't kill it. Thor's lightning one-shot at least 2 leviathans.
3. I see you started spouting gibberish since you have no counter argument to my point. Bottom line, Thor never said his lightning was not enough to beat Thanks without IG.
4. Really? So you believe Thanos w/o IG is more powerful than Dormammu or Ego?
Yeah, Thanos blocked the lightning with the IG. Again, I know you're quite stupid but please do try to keep up. This thread does NOT include the IG.
Originally posted by Silent Master
No, him stating his opinion isn't actually proof. It's just him stating his opinion.
Then you should have stated that stance right away rather than simply ignoring that portion of the quote.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Wrong, Ragnarok proved that 1 for 1 Thor's lightning punches have far more effect than Thanos's. If you disagree I would be more than happy to Battle Zone.
Straw man. I never said Thanos's punches had more effect then Thor's super charged punch.
Originally posted by ares834
But "he is unbeatable in 1-on-1 battle" does.Regardless, even if we wish to dismiss the director's statements, we have Thanos absolutely man-handling and stomping Hulk. Based on Ragnarok, that's well beyond what even Thor is capable of.
Anyway, re-watching the Thanos/Hulk, after Thanos stomps Hulk; Thor attacks Thanos by hitting him with a beam from behind. It doesn't even phase Thanos and Thanos then dismisses Thor with a simple kick. This is a mismatch.
Seems to me you're missing a few crucial data in your analysis here.
For example, you don't take into consideration that Thor didn't use his lightning for majority of his fight with Hulk. When he finally did use it, it only took 1 lightning charged punch delivered from his back to completely knock Hulk on his ass. In comparison, 11 hits from Thanos was not able to knock Hulk off his feet. Unlike the Thor/Hulk fight, Thor already has full control of his lightning at the beginning of this match.
As for that opening scene where Thor hits Thanos with a steel pipe, you failed to consider that:
1. Thor didn't use any lightning in that attack
2. Thor was already badly beaten up before he made the attack. In fact he had just gotten tortured by the power gem, a gem powerful enough to destroy worlds just by touching the surface. The fact that Thor could even stand up is already a testament to his fortitude. Thanos beating up a guy who could barely even stand is not proof that he could do the same thing when said guy is fully powered.
Originally posted by ares834
Then you should have stated that stance right away rather than simply ignoring that portion of the quote.Straw man. I never said Thanos's punches had more effect then Thor's super charged punch.
But you did completely ignore the context involved in Ragnarok in order to claim it proved that man handling the Hulk was beyond Thor's ability.
When what Ragnarok actually showed was that if Thor went at the Hulk with lightning punches from the start Thor could easily manhandle the Hulk. Even more so than Thanos did.