Punching Machinery Contest
The Namor/Hawkman stuff gave me the idea for this thread.
The following hit the machine [indestructible, fitted for this level of power, etc.] once, putting everything into the strike, from a standing position. How do they rank?
Let's say Namor's one hit = 100 points as a baseline.
Hawkman [hits it with his mace]
Aquaman
The Thing
Ares
Hercules
Colossus
Juggernaut
Iron Man
Apocalypse
Black Bolt
Hawkman [hits it with his mace]--tough one. he has some good striking feats but in general i'd still but it well below solid cl100's. maybe 60?
Aquaman--100
The Thing--90
Ares--75
Hercules--120
Colossus--85
Juggernaut--110
Iron Man--80
Apocalypse--100
Black Bolt--85
many of these guys are so close separating them comes down to personal preference or the way you view specific feats. in general several are in nearly identical classes of strength,
i guess with apoc i take a more general view. certain incarnations of him seem more powerful than others. the one who fought thor was uber. the one that fought dracula seemed much less so. other versions have been sort of in between. i could see him being the strongest if a given incarnation is looked at.
Wasn't he awoken early and infected by the vamps? And he still cut his head off. Iirc he was also shown to literally stomp Drac out in a war flashback at the start.
Even Evanpocalypse was shown to put THE HULK'S HULK out of commission twice. Rem just also really played up that enchantment weakness.
Apoc only really shits the bed when he's weakened, or when writers want to give Cyclops his only good feat that he can never do ever again.
Originally posted by One Big Mob
Wasn't he awoken early and infected by the vamps? And he still cut his head off. Iirc he was also shown to literally stomp Drac out in a war flashback at the start.
No, it was Apoc's minion who stomped Drac, actually. But back then, Drac appeared to be just a normal human...? Anyway, irrelevant.
You're right, the bite has severely drained Apoc (as stated in the story numerous times) and it's what allowed Dracula to control Nur.
Without going the retcon route, he would have had to have been a vamp by them. Otherwise he almost died then, and then the second time he almost died, he got vamped, in the same year.
If we go the the retcon route, Turac gets written out, and the Apoc stomp is what led to him turning.
It also amped Drac.
That story also shit on Apoc, but maybe his blood clan was super tough? Meh, he was forced awake which explains why he seemed weaker.
