How to Recognize a Fascist

Started by janus779 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
I asked the question for clarification, so calm thyself.

Disagreed. Look how emboldened they where during the 2016 election, shows they're a prominent force, you're also not taking into account the fringe supporters of these groups, the people who won't march with them and chant hatred openly, but will find solidarity to their cause behind closed doors.

By your own reasoning, if they're politically insignificant, than so are these "Leftist" you're clamoring on about.


How emboldened who were? The violent Leftists that hit (and still hit) people for wearing hats or voting for Trump?

There were (and are) lots of them, and they are institutionally supported by The Democratic party (Maxine Waters' call for harassing people being just one example).

The far right extremists are a legitimate fringe group and they do not have political influence in any significant sense.

You can only produce a seeming comparison by wildly labelling people on the right or just Trump supporters (some Bernie supporters voted for Trump because they could never bring themselves to vote for Hillary Clinton) as if they are the same as the extreme far right.

Please read what I said closely, I was comparing the nominal "Nazis" (who aren't actual Nazis but some weird racial supremacist group LARPING as Nazis) of the extreme far right with the larger but still not dominant Communist element within the Left.

The Communists are more significant, there are political elements of The Democratic party that patronise these people but, the more dangerous and the more legitimised parts of The Left are the SJW/values/virtue signallers who operate on a dangerously unhinged rhetorical landscape of "Nazis!" and "Fascists!" and create the environment for and even help to stoke violence against people who do not support The Left mainstream.

In my original post I repeatedly made clear that it is the values/virtue signalling Leftists who censor, intimidate and encourage violence in mainstream politics and society, that are destroying society and need to be challenged.

This is my very argument.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm not talking about just America and extreme Islamists are far more overtly aggressive when organized. if you don't believe me. go visit a country like Afghanistan or Syria and publicly speak out about anything they disagree with.

BTW, don't actually do that. you'll be killed.

Sure but I thought we were talking about groups in the USA and even UK.

Originally posted by snowdragon
Sure but I thought we were talking about groups in the USA and even UK.

I was talking about groups in general, but if we are just going with America. then yes. the extreme Alt-right might very well be the most violent when in large groups.

Originally posted by janus77
How emboldened who were? The violent Leftists that hit (and still hit) people for wearing hats or voting for Trump?

There were (and are) lots of them, and they are institutionally supported by The Democratic party (Maxine Waters' call for harassing people being just one example).

The far right extremists are a legitimate fringe group and they do not have political influence in any significant sense.

You can only produce a seeming comparison by wildly labelling people on the right or just Trump supporters (some Bernie supporters voted for Trump because they could never bring themselves to vote for Hillary Clinton) as if they are the same as the extreme far right.

Please read what I said closely, I was comparing the nominal "Nazis" (who aren't actual Nazis but some weird racial supremacist group LARPING as Nazis) of the extreme far right with the larger but still not dominant Communist element within the Left.

The Communists are more significant, there are political elements of The Democratic party that patronise these people but, the more dangerous and the more legitimised parts of The Left are the SJW/values/virtue signallers who operate on a dangerously unhinged rhetorical landscape of "Nazis!" and "Fascists!" and create the environment for and even help to stoke violence against people who do not support The Left mainstream.

In my original post I repeatedly made clear that it is the values/virtue signalling Leftists who censor, intimidate and encourage violence in mainstream politics and society, that are destroying society and need to be challenged.

This is my very argument.

Emboldened enough to outright murder a person and harm many more. Is that not enough?

Oh, if that counts as "political support", then clearly you must count Trump's support as well. So I raise you a Presidential nominee/President over a Representative. Trump telling his lunatics to punch people and he'll cover their legal expenses. That's a bit more extreme than "get in their faces", which is to challenged them and their beliefs; not assault people. Waters didn't call for physical violence.

I have no problem with any extremist Left or Right being challenged and opposed, but you seem to be so ridiculously one-sided.

I'm not even going to entertain this thread beyond this post, so take it as you will.

I think the correct wording should be "A lot of Islamic Extremists are Muslim" as opposed to "A lot of Muslims are Islamic Extremists". i know for a fact that the vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists or extremists.

That being said, this also holds true for right wingers. Not everyone on the right is Alt-Right/Far Right, or Neo Nazi. Most people ARE reasonable enough to allow coexistance and diplomacy to work (otherwise the US would have tore itself apart in far more civil wars than the one they had.) I myself am a centrist, as I do not believe one view should hold sway over others, each side has it's strong and it's weak points. I dislike everything about the SJW culture that has literally bombarded everything I enjoy with pointless and artificial "equality values" where they do not belong. At the same time, I see no value at all in being an asshat to people who are different, for being different and no other reason. If a person does the crime, they should do the time for that crime alone, not because they were born a different skin color.

In other words, everyone should get a fair and equal go.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I'm not even going to entertain this thread beyond this post, so take it as you will.

I think the correct wording should be "A lot of Islamic Extremists are Muslim" as opposed to "A lot of Muslims are Islamic Extremists". i know for a fact that the vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists or extremists.

That being said, this also holds true for right wingers. Not everyone on the right is Alt-Right/Far Right, or Neo Nazi. Most people ARE reasonable enough to allow coexistance and diplomacy to work (otherwise the US would have tore itself apart in far more civil wars than the one they had.) I myself am a centrist, as I do not believe one view should hold sway over others, each side has it's strong and it's weak points. I dislike everything about the SJW culture that has literally bombarded everything I enjoy with pointless and artificial "equality values" where they do not belong. At the same time, I see no value at all in being an asshat to people who are different, for being different and no other reason. If a person does the crime, they should do the time for that crime alone, not because they were born a different skin color.

In other words, everyone should get a fair and equal go.

Agreed.

The cherry on the top of this sundae of a topic is the fact some people were able to get an academic journal to publish portions of Mein Kampf rewritten as a feminist manifesto. Lol.

Leftism is the New Fascism!!!!!!

Lol the best parts are the clips of them laughing as their papers get published:

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"Our Struggle is My Struggle: Solidarity Feminism as an Intersectional Reply to Neoliberal and Choice"

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Originally posted by Surtur
"Our Struggle is My Struggle: Solidarity Feminism as an Intersectional Reply to Neoliberal and Choice"

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When emotions run high, fairness runs low.

Since we were talking about groups and violence and their damage I wonder where things like the 92 la riots, 2014-15 ferguson riots and 2015 baltimore riots fall?

Those were extreme responses to unchecked police violence/corruption, especially in 92; that had been brewing for a very long time.

Originally posted by snowdragon
When emotions run high, fairness runs low.

Since we were talking about groups and violence and their damage I wonder where things like the 92 la riots, 2014-15 ferguson riots and 2015 baltimore riots fall?

Speaking of riots I'm super glad they found that cop guilty so this city wasn't burned down. Lets just execute him and get it over with.

I would also note that dog parks are in fact not a part of rape culture and I feel like you'd have to be up all night doing some kind of cocaine/glue huffing combo to buy into that.

These scientists need to just stick to LSD.

Sorry to hear about Your Upcoming Banning Surt.

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Banning? For what?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Banning? For what?

People get so happy when a blood magic ritual goes right but when it goes wrong they just wanna blame others.

Originally posted by Surtur
People get so happy when a blood magic ritual goes right but when it goes wrong they just wanna blame others.

Ok?