World Breaker Hulk Vs PC Validus

Originally posted by Stoic
You know that it only took him seconds to one shot that solar system? He had full control of the dimension that he draws power from, so the nukes were only the icing on the cake. He could amplify at will, while Validus had a strength cap. So, since it was radiation that caused his size increase, nothing should have stopped this from happening anyways since he exudes radiation at certain levels.

Originally posted by Stoic
Yeah he is, actually. There is no limit to his might, and this one has direct access to the Gamma Force. He can go from city level to Solar system level in seconds, and went beyond even that by the end of HOTM. So yeah, you're wrong. Validus dies.

Pre-crisis had no limit, too. They had toon force to back them up. 😉

^^^thats for sure.

Leaning toward Validus. WBH is most impressive, but I don't see Hulk swatting away PC Kryptonians. Beat one up, sure, I can go with that. But Validus is just a whole other level, even in precrisis DC.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You do know it was Foom's nukes that amped him and Betty to that size, right?

Originally posted by Mindship
Leaning toward Validus. WBH is most impressive, but I don't see Hulk swatting away PC Kryptonians. Beat one up, sure, I can go with that. But Validus is just a whole other level, even in precrisis DC.

This. Validus is in another league. WB Hulk has a better chance with HP Doomsday. 😖hifty:

validus wins. spite thread.

Hulk

Validus beats Hulk badly.

Sigh, lol at hulk fanboys

WB Hulk is one of the most overrated characters ever

He gets shit.stomped with ease

This seems more about PC Kryptonians than it does about Validus, because people seem intent on handing Validus their feats. They just scaled the Kryptonians down to his level whenever he debuted. Validus himself took all day digging into a planet, while the Hulk was blowing world's apart with the power of his punches. Hell, even the Savage Hulk gave the main PC Kryptonian a fight back in the day. Validus' feats don't stack up.

a precrisis kryptonian would bend wbh over, shove his arm up hulks ass, then work him like a little hulk puppet.

and precrisis validus is so strong that he makes these same kryptonians look weak. validus wins.spite.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
a precrisis kryptonian would bend wbh over, shove his arm up hulks ass, then work him like a little hulk puppet.

and precrisis validus is so strong that he makes these same kryptonians look weak. validus wins.spite.

Based on what exactly? Savage Hulk fought Superman. He also gradually became strong enough to challenge Superman's Pre-Crisis levels of strength. WB Hulk was another beast entirely. When you find a feat showing Validus one shot blowing up an entire solar system let me know. WB Hulk was destroying planets as a side effect of the power that he was putting out.

So yeah this is spite. WB Hulk easily destroys this pretender.

It wasn't just pre-crisis superbly, but Mon-El as well, whom is stronger than kryptonians. They didn't even register with Validus. Validus would crush here.

Crossovers are not canon and unusable here, friend. Besides, do you believe they would let Hulk get one-shot by Superman like, if we're being honest, should have happened back then?

Originally posted by Senor Cage
It wasn't just pre-crisis superbly, but Mon-El as well, whom is stronger than kryptonians. They didn't even register with Validus. Validus would crush here.

They simply dropped power levels to make Validus a relevant threat, because compared to Superboy's most ridiculous feat, Validus was weak. It took Validus a long period of time to threaten a single planet, while WB Hulk was destroying them without directly even hitting them. There is a huge difference in power here. So yeah you can stop trying to hand Validus PC Kryptonian/Daxamite feats.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Crossovers are not canon and unusable here, friend. Besides, do you believe they would let Hulk get one-shot by Superman like, if we're being honest, should have happened back then?

The PC era was not contiguous in any form, and the contradictions that plagued that era were epic. Even so, the amount of power that the Hulk unleashed in one punch was greater than anything that Validus did in terms of destructive force. They set the Hulk on an incredibly tall stage; purposely saying that in a calm state that his very intestines were tough enough to withstand an uninhibited full force blow from a being 133.5 times stronger than Hercules, and then multiplying it by ten by having him whip on the original Wendigo who had been amped 1000 times greater than his base, which also indirectly scaled him over 1000 times greater than Savage Hulk who had never been able to defeat the original Wendigo.

Now they didn't stop there, they pushed the envelope to the bursting point when they had him go into the Dark Dimension and unleash the power to obliterate entire planets with indirect punches. Validus has nothing on this Hulk, and to further eclipse his power level, the Hulk could have become even more powerful than that.

Originally posted by Stoic
Based on what exactly? Savage Hulk fought Superman. He also gradually became strong enough to challenge Superman's Pre-Crisis levels of strength. WB Hulk was another beast entirely. When you find a feat showing Validus one shot blowing up an entire solar system let me know. WB Hulk was destroying planets as a side effect of the power that he was putting out.

So yeah this is spite. WB Hulk easily destroys this pretender.

precrisis superboy was powerful enough to do stuff like this easy-

this is how precrisis superboy compared to validus-

you dont have to be a ****ing rocket scientist to see why validus is stronger lol.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
let me post some shit that matters.

precrisis superboy was powerful enough to do stuff like this easy-

this is how precrisis superboy compared to validus-

you dont have to be a ****ing rocket scientist to see why validus is stronger lol.

You don't seem to grasp the concept that the PC era of DC comics was not contiguous, nor can you give Validus Superboy's feats. For example, in the scene that you cherry picked, we see Superboy's greatest strength feat, but he had showings that fell far below the one that you presented. One of those showings happened to be him getting rag dolled by Validus who was actually incapable of pulling those planets himself, as he had a showing that took him several hours to do enough damage to planet that rendered it close to the brink of destruction.

Please show me one scan of Validus one shotting multiple planets. Just one. Because of the hard fact that PC DC had so many holes in their continuity, you can not give those characters feats that they have not earned. If Validus was as powerful as you're trying to make him, he would've easily ripped that planet apart in one shot fashion. After all, WB Hulk could've done it without even directly touching it.

Show a scan of Validus doing that. Show a scan of Validus destroying a solar system with one punch. You won't because he never did, or could.

Who cares if Validus has one-shotted a planet or not?

It shows the amount of power that he was capable of using, which makes it extremely important. You can't invalidate it simply because he was incapable of replicating WB Hulk's strength feats.