Wrong. I asked you to show Validus replicating the scan of Superboy's strength feat, which you can not do. Nor did you comprehend the fact that during that era that the continuity was dubiously way off track. If it wasn't Validus would have easily been able to destroy a planet instead of having to dig down to its core to destabilize it. Then I asked you to show Validus replicating WB Hulk's destructive power, and you come back with this.
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
so does validus easily overpowering superboy, genius.**** the gods. the bias on this forum is alarming
Again you can not hand Validus Superboy's greatest strength feats taken from a different comic and time, and claim that he was operating on the same level due to the huge contradictions that plagued the Pre Crisis era. If so show me proof that Validus could push the kind of weight that WB Hulk did.
Oh yeah that's right, you can't.
Originally posted by Stoic
Based on what exactly? Savage Hulk fought Superman. He also gradually became strong enough to challenge Superman's Pre-Crisis levels of strength. WB Hulk was another beast entirely. When you find a feat showing Validus one shot blowing up an entire solar system let me know. WB Hulk was destroying planets as a side effect of the power that he was putting out.So yeah this is spite. WB Hulk easily destroys this pretender.
Even if this the rules didn't disallow crossovers, those Pre-CRISIS crossovers were set in an alternate universe so it wasn't the Hulk you're arguing.
And even if they weren't, balanced out by Byrne era Superman embarrassing Hulk at least twice after he was surprised once and thrown into orbit and Hulk escaped
Originally posted by Stoic
They simply dropped power levels to make Validus a relevant threat, because compared to Superboy's most ridiculous feat, Validus was weak. It took Validus a long period of time to threaten a single planet, while WB Hulk was destroying them without directly even hitting them. There is a huge difference in power here. So yeah you can stop trying to hand Validus PC Kryptonian/Daxamite feats.The PC era was not contiguous in any form, and the contradictions that plagued that era were epic. Even so, the amount of power that the Hulk unleashed in one punch was greater than anything that Validus did in terms of destructive force. They set the Hulk on an incredibly tall stage; purposely saying that in a calm state that his very intestines were tough enough to withstand an uninhibited full force blow from a being 133.5 times stronger than Hercules, and then multiplying it by ten by having him whip on the original Wendigo who had been amped 1000 times greater than his base, which also indirectly scaled him over 1000 times greater than Savage Hulk who had never been able to defeat the original Wendigo.
Now they didn't stop there, they pushed the envelope to the bursting point when they had him go into the Dark Dimension and unleash the power to obliterate entire planets with indirect punches. Validus has nothing on this Hulk, and to further eclipse his power level, the Hulk could have become even more powerful than that.
And didn't after Hulk came back to Earth he was really poundings on Fing Fang Foom and not even damaging the environment around them, let alone destroying Earth?
Originally posted by Delta1938
Even if this the rules didn't disallow crossovers, those Pre-CRISIS crossovers were set in an alternate universe so it wasn't the Hulk you're arguing.And even if they weren't, balanced out by Byrne era Superman embarrassing Hulk at least twice after he was surprised once and thrown into orbit and Hulk escaped
And didn't after Hulk came back to Earth he was really poundings on Fing Fang Foom and not even damaging the environment around them, let alone destroying Earth?
Yeah and that was Savage Hulk who was gradually closing the strength gap. WB Hulk was different. He ramped up at will.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Even if this the rules didn't disallow crossovers, those Pre-CRISIS crossovers were set in an alternate universe so it wasn't the Hulk you're arguing.And even if they weren't, balanced out by Byrne era Superman embarrassing Hulk at least twice after he was surprised once and thrown into orbit and Hulk escaped
And didn't after Hulk came back to Earth he was really poundings on Fing Fang Foom and not even damaging the environment around them, let alone destroying Earth?
The Hulk held back on Earth the entire time as per naration. He finally let go in the Dark Dimension. Which again was written on panel.
Originally posted by Stoic
Yeah and that was Savage Hulk who was gradually closing the strength gap. WB Hulk was different. He ramped up at will.
So what if WB Hulk was different? That's irrelevant to my point that if you're going to use alternate canons, that we also have Byrne era Superman being superior to the same Hulk you were arguing for to boost WB Hulk.
Originally posted by Stoic
The Hulk held back on Earth the entire time as per naration. He finally let go in the Dark Dimension. Which again was written on panel.
I could be wrong, but I recall Hulk not finding out he was back on Earth until after beating on FFF for some time, because he wasn't paying attention.
Originally posted by Stoic
Yeah and that was Savage Hulk who was gradually closing the strength gap. WB Hulk was different. He ramped up at will.
In fact Hulk and Wonder Woman combined power was just to pacify the parasite but Superman's power would've killed Parasite.
And Parasite straight up said he can't drain Superman fully.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He wasn't closing the gap. The contest was if Hulk could move Superman at all.In fact Hulk and Wonder Woman combined power was just to pacify the parasite but Superman's power would've killed Parasite.
And Parasite straight up said he can't drain Superman fully.
And that was still the Savage Hulk, and yes based on logic he was gradually closing the strength gap due to his power set. The Hulk grows stronger unlike many other characters in comics. WB Hulk was an entirely different Hulk. He ramped up at will, and could go far above planetary strength levels as seen.
Originally posted by Stoic
And that was still the Savage Hulk, and yes based on logic he was gradually closing the strength gap due to his power set. The Hulk grows stronger unlike many other characters in comics. WB Hulk was an entirely different Hulk. He ramped up at will, and could go far above planetary strength levels as seen.
Are you trying to say WBH is trillions of times stronger than savage hulk?