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Originally posted by Robtard
@Snow and goob

We've already had this convo and I demolished both of you.

Ah the ego coming in to defend something when I just proved your statement about illegals having influence in US elections is real, you were wrong but now you know.

You never demolished me in regards to the EC vs PV. It was put in the constitution so urban centers in the US wouldn't be consolidated power bases, so it would be coequal.

As it stands the state of California was 55 EC votes and it's going to increase in 2020. That is already a staggering amount of power as its represented in the house with 53 representatives.

What's it increasing to in 2020? Do they know yet?

Originally posted by Robtard
@Snow and goob

We've already had this convo and I demolished both of you. There's no reason why a citizen in Colorado vote carries more voting power than a citizen in California as an example. We're all Americans, should be my vote has as much as yours, yours has as much as quan's, quans has as much as DDM's etc. Citizen equality in voting. Period.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's absolutely inherently corrupt and favors one party more. Absolutely. Period.

Say it with me, no more EC, one citizen = one vote; the most votes wins.

Look at this corrupt, Russia-stolen election map:

How dare the Russians steal the election with the electoral college!

Edit - The "electoral college is corrupt and stealing the Democratic party's victory!" is one of those false things, yo. I'm not buying into it. We need the EC to protect us against places like West Virginia, Nebraska, Oklahoma, New York, and California. The rest of the states need a voice. I am not on board with getting rid of the EC, just yet.

That's a surprising amount of blue in Alaska.

Originally posted by Robtard
@Snow and goob

We've already had this convo and I demolished both of you. There's no reason why a citizen in Colorado vote carries more voting power than a citizen in California as an example. We're all Americans, should be my vote has as much as yours, yours has as much as quan's, quans has as much as DDM's etc. Citizen equality in voting. Period.

But it doesn't work like that. It's the state. Not the citizen. You're making an argument against the EC by pretending the EC is a popular vote. No, that's not the system. It's a winner-takes-all in almost all states. It's the state that is voting, not the individual. All individuals in the state that ended up in the minority don't get a voice. Their voice is automatically ignored. Their vote doesn't count at all. It's not this one-to-one vote ratio thing, by person, that you're making it out to be.

So what about all the millions of people in CA who didn't want Hillary as their president? They didn't get a voice.

Originally posted by BackFire
That's a surprising amount of blue in Alaska.

Yes, other than the absurd amounts of red, which is definitely not the story we were getting because it's all about "but Hillary won the popular vote!!!" crap.

Alaska being so blue was surprising.

Originally posted by dadudemon
So what about all the millions of people in CA who didn't want Hillary as their president? They didn't get a voice.

I think that's part of the problem. That's why I say a proportional system would be best, it would give people who live in a state that doesn't necessarily agree with their political leanings more of a voice and a greater reason to vote, while also still having the same safeguards against coastal cities having too great an influence.

Originally posted by BackFire
I think that's part of the problem. That's why I say a proportional system would be best, it would give people who live in a state that doesn't necessarily agree with their political leanings more of a voice and a greater reason to vote, while also still having the same safeguards against coastal cities having too great an influence.

I did the math on this, remember? I did a proportional thing. Hillary still wins. It's because you're not adding in a step function, at all. It's as simple as multiplying the electoral college votes by percentage of vote the candidate got and rounding to the nearest EC vote number.

And I didn't even need to do the math on that despite doing it because that's just the associative property of multiplication and is a middle school math thing we learned over 2 decades ago.

Yeah I remember.

But if we did add a step-function in there where the winner gets the minimum of 2 EC votes and THEN the remaining votes are proportionally split and rounded to the nearest EC vote, then we may have the balance you're talking about.

So in the case of New Mexico, Hillary would get 2 votes because she won the state. But there are 3 EC votes remaining. So she gets 2 more out of the 3 remaining and Trump gets 1 vote. So she gets 4 out of 5.

But in a much larger state like Texas:

There are 38 votes.

Trump won Texas.

So he gets 2 right away.

Then of the remaining 36 votes left:

He gets 19.

Hillary gets 16.

Johnson gets 1.

Instead of Trump getting all 38.

What are your thoughts? Do you like this system I've come up with more?

More than the current system, yes.

Originally posted by BackFire
More than the current system, yes.

I'll figure out the math on this, later. If I still have the spreadsheet from before, I'll apply the new math and "code" for this to see who wins. My guess is that Trump wins by an even wider margin because he so consistently won so many states.

In close races, this would probably have a difference.

Anyway...yes...I'll try the math out later. Perhaps tomorrow.

I'm glad suckers like you exist who do math for these types of things while I can just sit here and play with my dick.

if every 1 vote counted as 1 vote, republicans would have no hope of winning the executive branch. they need to have the system rigged in their favor. they need their special rules.

LOL!!!

Have their system rigged how? By importing voters from the third world? No way, no political party would be that vile.

Originally posted by Robtard
@Snow and goob

We've already had this convo and I demolished both of you. There's no reason why a citizen in Colorado vote carries more voting power than a citizen in California as an example. We're all Americans, should be my vote has as much as yours, yours has as much as quan's, quans has as much as DDM's etc. Citizen equality in voting. Period.

Originally posted by Silent Master
LOL!!!

Indeed it was hilarious.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
if every 1 vote counted as 1 vote, republicans would have no hope of winning the executive branch. they need to have the system rigged in their favor. they need their special rules.