Originally posted by Beniboybling
oh dear, another of surt's potential e-buddies turns out to be racist trash. what a shame! 😂
Wouldn't it be funny if your ancestry was European and mine Indian?
Of course you can't think and won't think, thus you are a Lefty, it is safe and fashionable and institutionally supported.
For me, the #believe thing is about not treating every person, male or female, who makes an accusation of sexual assault like they might be lying, let an investigation happen and if things start looking a bit far-fetched then by all means drag the accuser and their life over the coals but don't do it the instant somebody makes a claim. I am curious to know Surt, what if your sister or mother confided in you that they were a victim of an attack, how would you respond? What would be running through your mind? What questions would you ask them?
Originally posted by samhain
For me, the #believe thing is about not treating every person, male or female, who makes an accusation of sexual assault like they might be lying, let an investigation happen and if things start looking a bit far-fetched then by all means drag the accuser and their life over the coals but don't do it the instant somebody makes a claim. I am curious to know Surt, what if your sister or mother confided in you that they were a victim of an attack, how would you respond? What would be running through your mind? What questions would you ask them?
The problem is it seems like democrats essentially expect us to just take these claims and believe them. I think this because after she named witnesses and nobody corroborated her claims...the tactics shifted and suddenly they were talking about how there is rarely corroborating evidence to prove a rape existed, etc. To which I say...so, what then?
I'll answer your question about my mother, but I don't feel like this will shed any real light on anything. People don't think rationally when it comes to family. I've also known my mother for decades and have had many a conversation with her...which gives me more incite into her and if she is lying than it would a random person.
If she came and told me she was attacked first I'd ask if she was okay and if she needed to go to the hospital. Then I'd ask her to tell me her story and then I'd tell her to report it.
Originally posted by cdtm
The two could be true, though.SJW's, I consider mostly kids and wanna be revolutionaries with nothing better to do. They're good for baiting on clicks, view, and such.
I don't really think they have power, per say. I think their outrage is used as an excuse, perhaps, but if Rosanne offends someone with her drugged up racist trash tweet, they're not firing her because of what the public thinks. They're doing it because some very wealthy/powerful people are among those she offended (Major affiliates, investors, heavy hitters in television, whatever..)
If SJWs are truly powerless, then why are conservatives constantly triggering themselves over every outrageous thing one of them says or does?
Because the conservative political machine runs on outrage.
Originally posted by janus77this is rich coming from a ziggy clone. 🙁
I believe this is why you things are called NPCs.
Wouldn't it be funny if your ancestry was European and mine Indian?I am mixed race but nice try.Of course you can't think and won't think, thus you are a Lefty, it is safe and fashionable and institutionally supported.
Now tell me more about how being a POC means you can't be racist. 😘
Yeah that's basically how these nutjobs operate. You disagree with their narrative and you're white, "OH YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY RACIST AND TRYING TO PRESERVE YOUR SUPREMACY" or "OH YOU'RE WHITE AND YOU CAN'T SPEAK ON THIS"
And then you get someone whose not white saying the same thing... "WELL YOU'VE JUST INTERNALIZED YOUR OPPRESSION AND BECOME A TOOL OF THE WHITE MAN"
It's so ****ing stupid.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If SJWs are truly powerless, then why are conservatives constantly triggering themselves over every outrageous thing one of them says or does?Because the conservative political machine runs on outrage.
Oh. absolutely! Mainstream conservative media turned profiting off "outrage culture" into an art form.
The liberal and conservative media machine practically feeds into each other. So perfectly, if I was a tin hat foil wearing conspiracy nutjob (Yo), I'd ask if they're in on it togeher, profiting off trivial issues while the big issues like federal and corporate corruption are ignored..
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah that's basically how these nutjobs operate. You disagree with their narrative and you're white, "OH YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY RACIST AND TRYING TO PRESERVE YOUR SUPREMACY" or "OH YOU'RE WHITE AND YOU CAN'T SPEAK ON THIS"And then you get someone whose not white saying the same thing... "WELL YOU'VE JUST INTERNALIZED YOUR OPPRESSION AND BECOME A TOOL OF THE WHITE MAN"
It's so ****ing stupid.
Are you really going to defend Ziggy-on-light-mode or a Ziggy clone shat right out of incel haven and breeding ground Chateau Heartiste? I'm guessing the former still, but who knows, so many alt accounts here.
The fool said racist's racism isn't really their own fault, it's reactionary and the fault of "der Left!". ie "They made me racist!"
Originally posted by Surtur
The problem is it seems like democrats essentially expect us to just take these claims and believe them. I think this because after she named witnesses and nobody corroborated her claims...the tactics shifted and suddenly they were talking about how there is rarely corroborating evidence to prove a rape existed, etc. To which I say...so, what then?
I don't take the 'believe' part too literally, I'd drum that up to sensationalism from the media/press, I do believe it is, in essence, as I said, the overall idea should be that we don't instantly dismiss people who have made an accusation of this type, you can't uncover discrepancies and holes in their story if you don't look into the voracity of their claims in the first place generally speaking.
I often wonder how cases of so called 'historic sexual abuse', priests and the like, gain any convictions whatsoever, when a rape that happened yesterday can be very hard to prove under the right circumstances. Yet you hear of a handful of these convictions every year. Is the criteria somehow different? For an investigation certainly but I don't see how the burden of proof would change for a case that may date back decades.