Originally posted by AncientPowergood to know that there's another Salamander player on the forum. Anyway, I don't recall Exar doing anything that was really impressive tbh. He kills a Sith Wyrm with magic amulets yet fails to kill one of the two 'false sith' that he explicitly set out to kill with one of those very same dark side blasts. He gets stalemated by an injured Ulic and seems to hold no level of force or saber skill over him when they fight. He stops the movements of the entire senate. Seems impressive right? Wel it is until you realize that the people that he froze were non force sensitive and he required prep time to do it. He wont get that chance in this fight.
If only you'd stopped with the first paragraph. A fellow Salamander player should know better. Kun is far beyond Dooku in every regard bar lightsaber skill.
As far as him being significantly more skilled than Dooku, I could believe that if we were just talking about knowledge of the force. But in sabers? Dooku has consistently beaten down two of the best duelists of the Jedi order, trained a jedi killing cyborg to be capable of standing up to some of the best duelists out there, and held his own against one of the only three jedi to disarm the most powerful sith lord in history.
I could be wrong since my knowledge of Star Wars isn't nearly what my knowledge of comics and 40k is, and if I am, please tell me where I'm wrong and provide examples since my knowledge of Star Wars powerscaling isnt spectacular.
Originally posted by deathslash
good to know that there's another Salamander player on the forum. Anyway, I don't recall Exar doing anything that was really impressive tbh. He kills a Sith Wyrm with magic amulets yet fails to kill one of the two 'false sith' that he explicitly set out to kill with one of those very same dark side blasts. He gets stalemated by an injured Ulic and seems to hold no level of force or saber skill over him when they fight. He stops the movements of the entire senate. Seems impressive right? Wel it is until you realize that the people that he froze were non force sensitive and he required prep time to do it. He wont get that chance in this fight.As far as him being significantly more skilled than Dooku, I could believe that if we were just talking about knowledge of the force. But in sabers? Dooku has consistently beaten down two of the best duelists of the Jedi order, trained a jedi killing cyborg to be capable of standing up to some of the best duelists out there, and held his own against one of the only three jedi to disarm the most powerful sith lord in history.
I could be wrong since my knowledge of Star Wars isn't nearly what my knowledge of comics and 40k is, and if I am, please tell me where I'm wrong and provide examples since my knowledge of Star Wars powerscaling isnt spectacular.
He's stated to be far beyond Ood Bnar who could use the living Force energy to shield himself and Ossus from the worst of ten supernova waves that should've obliterated the planet. Bnar also goes on to display greater power over Exdcutor Sedriss. Which coincidentally puts prime Kun up there with DE Luke Skywalker.
He pulled a cruiser out of the depths of a temple whilst he was just starting out on Yavin IV.
He gained the complete knowledge from what is stated to be the most powerful Sith holocron in the mythos. Before destroying it.
He did stalemate Ulic in a duel but this was before Kun evolved his fighting style and outgrew his apprentice in power.
He's stated to be the most powerful Sith ever up to his era, placing him above Marka Ragnos. Marka Ragnos himself was the greatest up to his era. This places Ragnos, and by a greater degree Kun, beyond Ajunta Pall. Ajunta Pall was the most powerful of the Exiles, one of whom was Karness Muur who displayed powers relatively on par with the likes of Darth Krayt and Darth Vader.
That's just a quick overview.
Originally posted by AncientPower
He's stated to be far beyond Ood Bnar who could use the living Force energy to shield himself and Ossus from the worst of ten supernova waves that should've obliterated the planet. Bnar also goes on to display greater power over Exdcutor Sedriss. Which coincidentally puts prime Kun up there with DE Luke Skywalker.He pulled a cruiser out of the depths of a temple whilst he was just starting out on Yavin IV.
He gained the complete knowledge from what is stated to be the most powerful Sith holocron in the mythos. Before destroying it.
He did stalemate Ulic in a duel but this was before Kun evolved his fighting style and outgrew his apprentice in power.
He's stated to be the most powerful Sith ever up to his era, placing him above Marka Ragnos. Marka Ragnos himself was the greatest up to his era. This places Ragnos, and by a greater degree Kun, beyond Ajunta Pall. Ajunta Pall was the most powerful of the Exiles, one of whom was Karness Muur who displayed powers relatively on par with the likes of Darth Krayt and Darth Vader.
That's just a quick overview.
Before talking to you I had never known anyone could spout such absolute nonsense, with total ease.
Originally posted by AncientPowerthose are some solid feats. There are some things that I'd like to dispute, but I require a bit more knowledge.
He's stated to be far beyond Ood Bnar who could use the living Force energy to shield himself and Ossus from the worst of ten supernova waves that should've obliterated the planet. Bnar also goes on to display greater power over Exdcutor Sedriss. Which coincidentally puts prime Kun up there with DE Luke Skywalker.He pulled a cruiser out of the depths of a temple whilst he was just starting out on Yavin IV.
He gained the complete knowledge from what is stated to be the most powerful Sith holocron in the mythos. Before destroying it.
He did stalemate Ulic in a duel but this was before Kun evolved his fighting style and outgrew his apprentice in power.
He's stated to be the most powerful Sith ever up to his era, placing him above Marka Ragnos. Marka Ragnos himself was the greatest up to his era. This places Ragnos, and by a greater degree Kun, beyond Ajunta Pall. Ajunta Pall was the most powerful of the Exiles, one of whom was Karness Muur who displayed powers relatively on par with the likes of Darth Krayt and Darth Vader.
That's just a quick overview.
If it wouldn't bother you too much, may you please post a scan or link to the statement regarding Exar and Ood Bnar? Was Bnar as powerful as Sedriss before or after he became a tree? That second question is more important because it seems like several hundred (or would it be a thousand) years of being alive would give him a very big amount of time to become more powerful.
May you please provide scans of him pulling the cruiser?
May you please provide a source for where this holocron is said to be the most powerful.
Wasn't his style already highly developed? Where was it said that he became a better duelist?
All of those questions are answered in the short respect thread I authored here:
Originally posted by AncientPowerDid you just end Kun's respect thread by proving Malak is above Kun? 😂
All of those questions are answered in the short respect thread I authored here:
Originally posted by RealistRacismPost it because AP did an awful job there. He did some mild twisting and basically added a question mark to the proof.
Honestly, Ziggy as 'JMANGO' made a better case than anyone on why the Malak scaling is trash. A lot of it never got rebutted, so you should just check that out.
That really should not have been included. If you're going to add something like that to the respect thread, you should provide counter proof or actually be thorough about it. Am I missing something on mobile mode or something? People in the comments were acting like Jmanant should be scared and I must be missing something... was this how he ended it, because this is how he ended his thread on my end:
"Yet he never clarifies anything about why Malak wins. So SF!Malak >>> Exar Kun?"