Exar Kun vs. Master Luke

Originally posted by Galan007
Either stay on topic or don't post at all.

Enough faux-trolling, please.

@Myth: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=16746518#post16746518

Originally posted by AncientPower
😂 As I recall, it was Neph stomping both of you.

Kun didn't shield himself at all, or at least, didn't make any form of gesture suggesting he did. Kun merely stood up after the blast though. Though it's evident that despite being on the outskirts of the blast and having a warning from Ood to prep his Force shield, Luke still got blasted back a good twenty meters.

But are you now conceding that Kun's canonically far more powerful than Bnar?

Also, that Bnar destroyed himself and Sedriss?

Because essentially, you're conceding that Kun can do to Luke what a fraction of Ood's blast can do to Luke.

Kun oneshots DE Luke then? Fantastic find Myth, you're truly an ally to the cause.

Like it literally just knocks him back, you taking it to mean far more than it actually does is irrelevant.

Thanks for conceding that Kun is > DS Kyp, though. As well as Kun literally binding Luke's power with his own.

*shrug*

where does Exar Kun bind Luke's power

where does it say Exar Kun > Kyp Durron

His best students were going sour, getting impatient, trying to push the limits of their abilities. But he had sensed a greater, deeper menace that vibrated within the very stones of the Great Temple itself. . . evil, and well hidden.
- Dark Apprentice, Jedi Academy Trilogy Vol.2

With a wheezing cough as he expelled long-trapped air from his lungs and drew in a fresh breath, Master Skywalker groaned and sat up on the stone platform.
"You've-done it!" Luke said, gaining strength with each lungful of cool, clean air. The new Jedi Knights surged toward him. "You have broken the bonds."
- Champions of the Force

Luke directly attributes Kun's destruction with his ability to return to his body.

I mean, Exar Kun was a "greater, deeper menace" than some impatient students...

We don't know what technique Exar Kun used on Luke or how it works. We do know that he boasted about having "millennia to practice" being a spirit, so it's not exactly a meaningful comparison to say that spirit Luke can't overpower whatever spell Exar Kun was using on him.

I mean, spirit Kun can't even physically hurt people. Compare that to, say, Vitiate and there's a pretty clear disparity.

He's specifically referencing Kyp Durron (and Gantoris) prior to this, and his growing power. This quote takes place after Gantoris falls to the dark side and Kyp knocks out Horn prior to stealing Mara's ship and mocking Luke's teachings. Menace is just a fancy way of saying threat. Kun is a greater threat than Kyp Durron. The same Durron he spends the same chapter saying was a threat that could be even worse than Darth Vader. Looks pretty damn clear cut to me.

Him boasting about having millennia to practice is him bullshitting as actual sources confirm he was rendered inert and in a slumber, until Luke first arrived.

Kun can't physically hurt people? So when he ragdolled Horn, Force choked all of Luke's students and drained Gantoris to a husk. . . That never happened?

I have to question what reality AP lives in when half of the stuff (s)he says is evidently false, and really requires a single reading of the flippin' comics to see that.

BTW, I want to get something down:

Given that you take Exar Kun's "darkest power in the galaxy" to mean that he's more powerful than Vitiate was at that time, I take it that you don't consider "death of the author", and that you take such accolades as credible?

For god's sake. If Yavin 4's Force energies weren't enough to Exar Kun to reclaim his power he held in life, doesn't that ring any bell to you?

Luke might still stomp, but to say he 100% murderstomps Flesh Exar Kun it's a stretch.

Nobody says Luke 100% murderstomps. But Luke does win, yes.

Originally posted by MythLord
Nobody says Luke 100% murderstomps. But Luke does win, yes.

That's debateable.

I see post-JA Luke winning with great difficulty. But pre-JA Luke gets severely stomped.

Myth still has no arguments.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
BTW, I want to get something down:

Given that you take Exar Kun's "darkest power in the galaxy" to mean that he's more powerful than Vitiate was at that time, I take it that you don't consider "death of the author", and that you take such accolades as credible?

No, because Tenebrae has quotes earlier in the time and general authorial intent that gives him a bigger stance than Kun has.

Originally posted by NoHateSpeech
yes Ancient Power! crush those white male supremacists

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