Originally posted by Robtard
That quote probably is a fact. Trump thinks so.Do you honestly believe Trump's later claim that he "never" uses racist remarks?
I mean...it doesn't get more confirmed than the man himself confirming that he said it.
A normal person would read or hear those words and think, "Damn, racist f*ck." But if you're an actual racist f*ck, you'd say, "Yeah, that's probably true that I said that." Oh...uhh...you know you can just deny that kind of shit, right?
The quote attributed to Trump about the black accountant.
A word perfect quote from 30 years ago
with all the syntax (speech pattern) of current Trump
I'd like to hear the tape recording
Or see the diary / notepad / napkin / journal / filofax / piece of paper where it was written
Or the legacy floppy disk, disk drive or ribbon where it was typed
If this is a person with a remarkable memory - and they can have some one vouch for them - to say - hey for real this person has a remarkable memory then fair enough
In the last few years we've seen all kinds of drama about things that people DIDN'T do or say 30 years ago.
Trump said in an interview he probably said that. He probably did.
This brings up a few things:
Did You Really?
If you did. Okay. Do you still think that way?
Do you regret it?
What... do you think of black people any differently now?
If you went around vaporising everyone who probably said did or thought something racist back when racism was institutionalized there would be very few people remaining on this planet.
I've experienced racial discrimination. As a survivor It would not do me any good to continue to reopen the wounds. I reported it. Pushed it to one side. Left it behind me.
The quote doesn't say what Trump did / What happened to the accountant / did the accountant actually make an accounting error or make an error in reporting the accounts Was the accountant bullied. Did she/he leave the company. Was she/he treated for work related stress.
Because if so I'd like to hear that his/her union stood up for him/her and the chartered institute they were an accredited member of. And I'd like to hear that they took Trump to a Labor Court or something.
I want to hear /know that guy/girl is okay.
Originally posted by shiv
The quote attributed to Trump about the black accountant.A word perfect quote from 30 years ago
with all the syntax (speech pattern) of current Trump
I'd like to hear the tape recording
Or see the diary / notepad / napkin / journal / filofax / piece of paper where it was written
Or the legacy floppy disk, disk drive or ribbon where it was typed
If this is a person with a remarkable memory - and they can have some one vouch for them - to say - hey for real this person has a remarkable memory then fair enough
This is a really good point. Don't know what the full claims are that are being made about this quote, but a verbatim post 30-ish years later must surely have a recording to accompany it or as you said, somebody in the vicinity with an eidetic memory to remember it. So it would appear to more than likely either be an outright lie or someone is getting a little too creative when filling in the blanks.
Originally posted by shiv
Because if so I'd like to hear that his/her union stood up for him/her and the chartered institute they were an accredited member of. And I'd like to hear that they took Trump to a Labor Court or something.I want to hear /know that guy/girl is okay.
You do know you can google any of these things, right? You can look for the questions you ask.
And why would Trump be taken to "labor court" for making a racist remark?
Guys, look how long it took me to find this:
"John R. O’Donnell, the one-time president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino, wrote in his 1991 book Trumped! that his former employer frequently used racial slurs..."
“And isn’t it funny. I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. . . . I think the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.”
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/d...mp-racist-meme/
Quote comes from a published book from 1991. If it was false, Trump could sue and easily win in court for libel. Libel is pretty serious especially when it can be proven that the libel is damaging and the libel comes from a published book.
Guys, I know it's hard to believe Trump is racist because you're in denial. But the mental gymnastics and extreme lengths you're going through to avoid the truth is pathetic.
Originally posted by shiv
Trump said in an interview he probably said that. He probably did.This brings up a few things:
Did You Really?
If you did. Okay. Do you still think that way?
Do you regret it?
What... do you think of black people any differently now?
If you went around vaporising everyone who probably said did or thought something racist back when racism was institutionalized there would be very few people remaining on this planet.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I mean...it doesn't get more confirmed than the man himself confirming that he said it.A normal person would read or hear those words and think, "Damn, racist f*ck." But if you're an actual racist f*ck, you'd say, "Yeah, that's probably true that I said that." Oh...uhh...you know you can just deny that kind of shit, right?
Nah, it's not 100% confirmed. He said he "probably said it".
Again: how about we just go with shit we can actually confirm? It sure would simplify things.
Originally posted by Surtur
Gee that would be downright logical, especially when it comes to his comments about Muslims(which are not a race).
Honestly, you're not the first to say this, everyone should know this. But I know plenty of idiots who just kind of assume/act like Muslims are a race of people, we likely all do. Trump really comes across as one of those guys. Racially ignorant and racially insensitive=Racist. Especially in this day and age. Time to evolve.
Racially ignorant and racially insensitive=Racist
So do you need to reflect both those qualities or just one to be considered racist?
I find that there are many people that aren't racially ignorant or insensitive and still present themselves as closet bigots and racists through their actions, at least in the USA.
Originally posted by samhain
Racial ignorance because if a person hasn't taken the time to learn about something, they shouldn't ask me to think that it's important to them, if it was important they'd have done a bit of research.
I would agree with that but let's be clear the research isn't as simple as googling something and Trump doesn't put much effort into things except trolling and fast food.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Guys, look how long it took me to find this:"John R. O’Donnell, the one-time president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino, wrote in his 1991 book Trumped! that his former employer frequently used racial slurs..."
“And isn’t it funny. I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. . . . I think the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.”
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/d...mp-racist-meme/
Quote comes from a published book from 1991. If it was false, Trump could sue and easily win in court for libel. Libel is pretty serious especially when it can be proven that the libel is damaging and the libel comes from a published book.
Guys, I know it's hard to believe Trump is racist because you're in denial. But the mental gymnastics and extreme lengths you're going through to avoid the truth is pathetic.
Sorry, Trump semi-recently said that he "never" makes racist comments, so that's that, libtard.
Originally posted by Surtur
My argument is still: if he's so damn racist and there's so much evidence we don't need to cling to "probably's" .
Correct. There's a very long list and you're in denial about it. And the probably is his own wording, not anyone else's. That's as damning as it gets. If his case went to court, that statement alone would cause him to lose.
But you can go ahead and keep pretending Trump isn't racist. Moving goalposts, etc. No one is on your side except people in denial. He's a racist f*cktard and there's a mountain of evidence for it.