Darth Maul vs. Tulak Hord

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
So, Val is lying then.

He can’t just OVEREXAGGERATE that he solo’d armies if he didn’t.

That would be lying.

There are so many ways he could have exaggerated that.

You stated that you don’t believe that he took on armies by himself, which Val stated he did.

You basically believe that Val is lying then.

Not really. What I suggested was that Val could have exaggerated some of the finer details of the fight and ignored some details (eg: circumstances favouring Tulak).

Originally posted by HP Legend
Not really. What I suggested was that Val could have exaggerated some of the finer details of the fight and ignored some details (eg: circumstances favouring Tulak).

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Oh well, no need to argue about this, but hype is always favored by me! 😄

Again I understand your perspective but I just don't agree with it.

Originally posted by HP Legend
Again I understand your perspective but I just don't agree with it.

I guess I just can’t give that up...

Tulak Hord still has one of the most badass and expensive armor suits in SWTOR.

Originally posted by Geistalt
Tulak Hord still has one of the most badass and expensive armor suits in SWTOR.

There’s no reason to assume Khem was lying or exaggerating. The only reason you’d want to cast doubt over Val’s claims is to limit this to concrete feats-only, which obviously favours Maul.

Originally posted by RealistRacism
There’s no reason to assume Khem was lying or exaggerating. The only reason you’d want to cast doubt over Val’s claims is to limit this to concrete feats-only, which obviously favours Maul.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
You stated that you don’t believe that he took on armies by himself, which Val stated he did.

You basically believe that Val is lying then.

I mean Anakin said AOTC Obi-Wan = Mace Windu.

Doesnt make it true.

Mace implied Obi-Wan is a better swordsman than himself. Again isnt true, and neither is Mace a liar.

^ Cant edit, but basically feats are required to compliment statements. Cant go off statements alone, especially not fallible in-universe ones.

They’re completely different situations, Thor. It’s a lot easier to think that X is better than Y with a lightsaber when they’re not (especially when factoring in biases), than it is to misremember someone pulling down a monstrous 300m+ sized ship out of the sky. We know for a fact that Obi-Wan isn’t as good as Mace based on feats and Lucas’ own word, but there’s been no such contradiction made in Hord’s case.

Fact is, there’s no real reason to doubt Khem as a source. While there’s still a little ambiguity surrounding the feat, we have no reason to believe our didn’t happen unless you can prove that Val was lying, being tricked, or was taking DMB’s LSD.

Bringing *down* a ship is kind of vague with respect to how impressive it is.

Pulling a ship out of the sky... is well beyond Maul. There's really no getting out of this.

Actually, there's plenty. We haven't any understanding of the circumstances in which the feat was performed. In what sense can it be compared to Maul?

We don't. But the fact that it was 'in the sky', mean's there's a high probability that it was moving - likely at a decent speed - so I doubt prep was involved. Are we going to chalk this up to 'muh' nexus now?

I'm going for the simplest explanation, and attributing Hord's success to a set of highly favourable circumstances is speculation that simply isn't pointed to. We have more reason to believe he legitimately did do it.

Obviously any favorable circumstances won't be pointed out when the pointer is a fanboy lmfao

Salt. There are no favourable circumstances that we know of. We have no reason to believe there were.

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