Replicate this strength feat: Pulling the midgard serpent

Started by Philosophía4 pages

Everybody laughing at celey notwithstanding, abhi didn't quote the entire thing.

Tsk. Tsk.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I just showed a scan where it says time and space are different there:

That would be enough in itself to nullify this feat.

But then, we also have the fact that the Serpent was fished with a regular sized bull [lol] and a rope [all this while he is still blatantly still holding Earth in his grip]

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/Thor_1983_327_15.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/Thor_1983_327_16.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/Thor_1983_327_17.jpg

And then fighting Thor while, again, nowhere near Earth-sized:

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/Thor_1983_327_18.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/Thor_1983_327_19.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/Thor_1983_327_20.jpg

..so we have its actual relative size to Thor, a bull, a boat etc. [and Tyr/Loki, Odin etc. - more on that later on, keep reading]

The Serpent wasn't literally crushing the planet in his coil, the same way he wasn't literally circling the Earth in normal/space time. He wasn't squeezing Earth in the literal sense, as you or I would squeeze a grape. He was encircling it in the Void (where the constricts of normal space/time don't apply) and catastrophes started taking place around the world, as he was attacking this plane of existence from there [as Odin remarks]

He wasn't a 'physical presence' in that sense.

That's why he was 'etheral':

[b]1. Characterized by lightness and insubstantiality; intangible.
2. Highly refined; delicate. See Synonyms at airy.
3.
a. Of the celestial spheres; heavenly.
b. Not of this world; spiritual.

4. Chemistry Of or relating to ether.

And that's why Thor had to leave the Earth space/time/sphere, and go confront the Serpent in the Void:

In fact, here is yet another scene, from the same comic, that takes the concept of the Serpent being Earth-sized home, beats it, ties it to the radiator and leaves it there to die: Tyr and Loki use the Serpent to travel to Earth, travelling along its tail which is basically bridge-sized and then exit through a portal that is basically the Serpent's mouth manifested in Earth's realm [remember, as all of this is happening, the Serpent is still supposedly, erm, Earth-sized]

The size depicted here is [well, what do you know ?!] in line with every other portrayal of the serpent in this issue - be it when the villains first face it, be it when Thor fishes it [and it encircles the Earth from the non-normal space/time Void], be it when Thor fights it, and be it when Thor ties it to Yggdrasil.

Argue against? I'm sorry, you seem to be under the impression that we're arguing "Thor vs Superman" and posting feats of some kind. That you're supposed to come up with excuses for arguments, and I'm supposed to show why each of them are bullshit.

No, what [I'm] doing here is simply pointing out blatant facts from the story, that have been mis-spread around for years now. There's nothing to 'debate' here.

I'll upload the whole issue, if it's not against the rules, and let anybody read it. It doesn't even take average intelligence - the events I've presented are clear as day, as long as you read it for yourself, and don't have Thor fans shoving up their cropped scans for years on end. [/B]

Originally posted by Philosophía
Asgard isn't intangible. It is physical. Earth isn't intangible. It is physical. The Void where Serpent encircled Earth is neither Earth nor Asgard - it's between them:

In this place specifically, the normal rules of time/space don't apply:

(both of these scans are from the same page, by the way)

When the Serpent physically encircled Earth from within the Void, in the normal space/time [i.e. Earth's space/time] he wasn't a physical presence that was squeezing Earth [imagine you're holding a pair of balls in your hand. Squeeze. That's not what the serpent did], but inducing catastrophes through its etheral form, which is what's presented in Earth's space/time [in the Void space/time, he was physical - and that's why Thor needed to go there, to deal with him]

Try to be coherent. If not, get somebody to help you do so. My brain hurts reading your vomit.

Any other questions?

So phil, does that mean he used "unimaginable" strength when he tied the the Serpent to Ygdradsil back in Asgard space? Since u know, it's physical space as per your admission.

Originally posted by carver9
Doesn't make sense. We clearly see it telling us the Serpent was crushing Earth and we see a physical form doing it

You can magically crush the Earth.
If the Serpent was tangible then no one would be able to get to the other half of the Earth due to their path being blocked by the Serpent.
The Serpent was both intangible and invisible to the people on Earth.

I once punched a snake to death. They stink a lot. Why anyone would have them as pets is beyond me

Originally posted by One Big Mob
I once punched a snake to death. They stink a lot. Why anyone would have them as pets is beyond me

This thread reminds me why we need an annual reward thread

One of those awards should be titled MythBuster.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
This thread reminds me why we need an anal reward

Well said 👆 You first.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Well said 👆 You first.

Did..did

You know what! After I’m witnessed the pwnage that philo delivered, the award should go to all the People who used that feat before

A splendid idea 👆

Rage will end up hospitalized 😂

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So phil, does that mean he used "unimaginable" strength when he tied the the Serpent to Ygdradsil back in Asgard space? Since u know, it's physical space as per your admission.

😂

Fishing for feats yet again.

Like Thor with a bull?

Exactly

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

Fishing for feats yet again.


No my friend. For consistency.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Like Thor with a bull?

😂

First thought in my mind. Life imitates art?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
No my friend. For consistency.

😂

First thought in my mind. Life imitates art?


Consistency for what? Your terribleness?

The feat is completely unquantifiable. Just like Hercules holding up the heavens. A better feat would be when Thor actually lifted a portion of the Serpent off the ground during one of his trials by Utgard Loki.

Originally posted by zopzop
The feat is completely unquantifiable. Just like Hercules holding up the heavens. A better feat would be when Thor actually lifted a portion of the Serpent off the ground during one of his trials by Utgard Loki.
How big was the serpent in that instance? How heavy?

Originally posted by XLR87T3
How big was the serpent in that instance? How heavy?

Here are the panels :

That cat was an actual cat, Thor had too much mead.

Originally posted by zopzop
Here are the panels :
That's actually far smaller than before, due to how skinny the serpent is. In the scans I've posted, the serpent was as wide as Britain or Spain at least