Women in the work place: don't hire them and avoid them

Surtur: "Women are a liability now in the workforce!"
Casual Observer: "Oh, and what field of work are you in, sir?"
Surtur: "I'm unemployed" 😐

Originally posted by Mindship
It is quite the pickle we've gotten ourselves into. I don't know if there is much else we can do beyond mutual respect, common sense, and due process. And with time.

We need a good romcom to help us through.

It's annoying that it's gone too far, now.

Timeline goes like this:

1. Women are treated subhuman in most cultures.
2. Some cultures mature and treat women as human but with less rights (Mesopotamia).
3. Some cultures mature and treat women is co-equals but different rights (Spartans)
4. Some cultures mature and treat women as equals (women's rights movements and Suffrage Movements)
5. Most cultures mature and treat women as equals - codified but not in actuality (Western Culture after the 50s and 60s)
6. Most cultures mature and treat women as equals in almost all situations.
7. Some cultures go too far and excessive demand for unequal rights to be codified to force outcomes of equality.
8. Some cultures continue going too far with 7 and the culture becomes risk adverse to interacting with women, reverting all the work done from 1-6.
9. Women are now treated as risks and we are back to 2.

Originally posted by Robtard
Surtur: "Women are a liability now in the workforce!"
Casual Observer: "Oh, and what field of work are you in, sir?"
Surtur: "I'm unemployed" 😐

lol, had a chuckle.

Surtur works, I believe. But he learned his lesson about posting personal info already so he won't say anything.

Originally posted by dadudemon
lol, had a chuckle.

Surtur works, I believe. But he learned his lesson about posting personal info already so he won't say anything.

He does not, he's said in unrelated threads to me or anyone he bickers with prior to all the back-and-forth shit that he is not employed and that he's on Country Care. Being on County Care means the household (of two) has to bring in a very low amount of income, ie less than working 40hrs at min wage.

Originally posted by dadudemon
1. Women are treated subhuman in most cultures.
2. Some cultures mature and treat women as human but with less rights (Mesopotamia).
3. Some cultures mature and treat women is co-equals but different rights (Spartans)
4. Some cultures mature and treat women as equals (women's rights movements and Suffrage Movements)
5. Most cultures mature and treat women as equals - codified but not in actuality (Western Culture after the 50s and 60s)
6. Most cultures mature and treat women as equals in almost all situations.
7. Some cultures go too far and excessive demand for unequal rights to be codified to force outcomes of equality.
8. Some cultures continue going too far with 7 and the culture becomes risk adverse to interacting with women, reverting all the work done from 1-6.
9. Women are now treated as risks and we are back to 2.

I think overall, with the Spiral of Civilization, things have gotten better for the Less Powerful, but we are, and will be for a very long time yet, emotional beings with deeply hardwired biological drives. It's gonna be baby steps all the way up the incline.

I know this guy who has a woman running his main operation.

She went to him as a junior staffer with an original project pitch

The guy approved it put her in charge of it and it was a very good earner for him.

Now she manages the business.

Originally posted by dadudemon
lol, had a chuckle.

Surtur works, I believe. But he learned his lesson about posting personal info already so he won't say anything.

Bingo.

I also never even said they are a liability. I just posted videos from people discussing the subject. Well the 2nd video was kinda related, but about men getting tweaked over getting accused of some shit over banging instead of just sexual harassment, at least according to the articles.

Originally posted by Robtard
Surtur: "Women are a liability now in the workforce!"
Casual Observer: "Oh, and what field of work are you in, sir?"
Surtur: "I'm unemployed" 😐

Originally posted by quanchi112
I laugh at a person on disability while I live in my mommy's basement and My Job is to stay down here and be a big baby on the interwebs..

Sad.. But Oh So True.

😎

People here knows Women has more rights than men in the West right?

So what’s with all the bitching?

Here’s one in the West. A boy can be genital mutilated, but if done to a girl, it’s a crime.

Why do people in the West just sweeps aside Men’s problem? Claiming their not as bad as Women.

Oh, they do you say? Guess it must me true.

I'm no fan of circumcision, I believe it shouldn't be done and once a boy turns into an adult at 18, he can then choose to get snipped if he so wishes.

But you comparing male circumcise to female circumcision is apples to oranges, it's vastly more harmful to a vagina than a penis. One is the removal of the foreskin, the other is the removal of most; if not all of the outer labia and sometimes the clitoris as well.

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh, they do you say? Guess it must me true.

I'm no fan of circumcision, I believe it shouldn't be done and once a boy turns into an adult at 18, he can then choose to get snipped if he so wishes.

But you comparing male circumcise to female circumcision is apples to oranges, it's vastly more harmful to a vagina than a penis. One is the removal of the foreskin, the other is the removal of most; if not all of the outer labia and sometimes the clitoris as well.

So it’s okay because it’s not as bad? Gotcha.

Originally posted by SquallX
So it’s okay because it’s not as bad? Gotcha.

Well no, go back and read what I actually said and go with that; not what your feelings told you I said.

One thing I advise everyone who's working

Keep A Record Of Things

for example: emails, days and hours you worked

you may want to keep a record of who you were working with and where they were - this may be on a schedule / rota

And never ever sign anything without reading it.

Originally posted by shiv
One thing I advise everyone who's working

Keep A Record Of Things

for example: emails, days and hours you worked

you may want to keep a record of who you were working with and where they were - this may be on a schedule / rota

And never ever sign anything without reading it.

That is fair, but that is in itself is a burden. I know managers who have taken to recording, documenting and keeping track of meetings with women, never after work, and always in public places. And honestly, it's kind of annoying, and a drain on resources. It hampers efficiency. From a purely economic and financial standpoint, women are a bigger financial liability than men. The expected return from a productive female employee might not outweigh the potential cost.

Which sucks, because women in Finance from what I've seen are some of the coolest, toughest, and hardest working people (Man or Woman) in any industry...

The balance to this in today's climate is beyond my intelligence. We need to move to a more centrist social environment.

CCTV and/or body-cams should solve this problem.

Bodycams in the workplace would just result in people complaining that they're being recorded without consent.

So many fears from the MRAs, when in reality, how hard is it to not to be a sexual predator at work? Answer: It's not hard

Originally posted by dadudemon
I do think he's an idiot for thinking that all he has to do is "not be an ***hole." The problem is, most are not. But some of that set STILL end up in lawsuits.

I agree with this statement. However, the problem is not with "most women." 1 lawsuit is all it takes for a multimillion dollar company be taken down. "If only I had not been unlucky enough to have that one woman working here." That type of thinking spreads like a meme (how Dawkins originally defined "meme"😉 and you see aversion to hiring women. The trend the article is pointing out.

This is where you fall out of line with people who run complicated models by collecting a crap ton of dating and are determining that liability of women in the workplace is increasing.

It's a numbers game. Some organizations exist to do consulting for others. They review things such as sensitive cases from HR, do all sorts of demographic analyses and determine insurance policies and company based on those results. If you are this type of consultant, you make a lot of money.

But you also see trends. When you get expensive insurance to mitigate the financial risk of a female in your work place, you probably have to take a step back and ask yourself what the hell is wrong with the workplace.

There ARE men who still harass. And they should pay the price for it. But more often than not, it's stupid crap that ends up in HR and stupid crap that results in lawsuits.This is what they are talking about in that article. No one is arguing that sexual harassment is okay. No one should. The problem is the pendulum swung too far one way and now it is becoming less of a financially secure investment to have women in the workplace.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Bodycams in the workplace would just result in people complaining that they're being recorded without consent.

It works for cops after all:
usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/05/24/body-cam-video-exonerates-texas-state-trooper-accused-sexual-assault/639858002/

Originally posted by Robtard
So many fears from the MRAs, when in reality, how hard is it to not to be a sexual predator at work? Answer: It's not hard