Ultra Instinct Power

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NewGuy01 perpetual

Originally posted by bbrem123
But in reality MUI is the wrong term because Goku has not mastered it at all.

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BrolyBlack Restricted
Originally posted by bbrem123
I enjoy how the manga portrayed MUI. (Very quickly, giving it wayyyy more room for growth) But in reality MUI is the wrong term because Goku has not mastered it at all.

He can go to it when he chooses. The next time I’m sure he won’t have a time limit.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

No he can't. MUI is still a completely spontaneous/involuntary transformation at this point.

cdtm Restricted

That's right. In the manga and anime, Goku said he can't access it anymore.

There were differences in how he accessed it, as the anime only kicked in after he was beaten down or near death, while the manga simply randomly activated mid fight with Jiren, without requiring massive amounts of punishment.

Being unable to access it post ToP at will is the same in both mediums.

BrolyBlack Restricted
Originally posted by Galan007
No he can't. MUI is still a completely spontaneous/involuntary transformation at this point.

The third time he did it, he chose to. I could be wrong but he looked pretty in control.

BrolyBlack Restricted

Originally posted by cdtm
That's right. In the manga and anime, Goku said he can't access it anymore.

There were differences in how he accessed it, as the anime only kicked in after he was beaten down or near death, while the manga simply randomly activated mid fight with Jiren, without requiring massive amounts of punishment.

Being unable to access it post ToP at will is the same in both mediums.

This was a limit only imposed by the creator though. Goku has never had trouble reaching a state he’s acheived before. It’s saijen biology that can keep achieving greater levels based on their past.

I really feel that Goku is nessecary could hit UI if the time called for it.

cdtm Restricted

They also usually show the last form can't beat the new villain. The fact Toriyama did away with it, implies a truely mastered MUI might be beyond even a Broly or Vegeto.

BrolyBlack Restricted

Correct, yes. That’s what I was thinking as well.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
The third time he did it, he chose to. I could be wrong but he looked pretty in control.
The transformation itself is involuntary. Even after the ToP(and Broly movie), Goku still cannot activate it at will.

This is confirmed in the anime:

And manga: