Racial Discrimination in the Criminal Justice System: A Myth

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Racial Discrimination in the Criminal Justice System: A Myth

I've posted about this before. Seems I was wrong.

Seems I was buying into the SJW Koolaid again.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886913000470#!

One of the most consistent findings in the criminological literature is that African American males are arrested, convicted, and incarcerated at rates that far exceed those of any other racial or ethnic group. This racial disparity is frequently interpreted as evidence that the criminal justice system is racist and biased against African American males. Much of the existing literature purportedly supporting this interpretation, however, fails to estimate properly specified statistical models that control for a range of individual-level factors.

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This racial disparity, however, was completely accounted for after including covariates for self-reported lifetime violence and IQ. Implications of this study are discussed and avenues for future research are offered.

Interesting topic.

Also read another study on this same topic that stated black males are arrested for violent crimes at rates 3.6 times (per capita) the rate of white males despite being a significantly smaller minority. And that this pointed to the fact that the system is clearly has a bias against black males, especially.

But when the data is examined a bit closer, they represented 6x the rate of violent crime but only 3.6 times the arrest rate meaning that white males, relative to black males, are over-arrested. Another way to look at it is black males are arrested at a lower proportional rate to white males for violent crime.

But why?

"If one considers the absolute number of offenders and it turns out there are a larger number of offenders from Group A than Group B, then it stands to reason that Group A is the greater threat in terms of likelihood of criminal acts," said Lorie Fridell, a criminologist at the University of South Florida.

Robert Brame, a criminology professor at the University of South Carolina, echoed Fridell’s assessment.

"The statistical fact is that you’re more likely to be a victim of a white perpetrator than a black one just because there are so many more whites in the population," Brame said.

But, Brame, continued, it is not enough to speak of either the total number or the population-based rate.

https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/apr/02/sally-kohn/sally-kohn-white-men-69-percent-arrested-violent/

This is not a whites vs. blacks debate. I don't want to get into race-wars and talk about which race is superior because I think that's bullshit. I've stated multiple times that our "Black Violent Crime Problem" is not a race problem at all: it's a black culture and socio-economic problem.

Really, what I'd like to focus on is the SJW falsehoods that all of us are been force-fed. The idea that the American Criminal Justice System is racist is so entrenched in our thinking that almost no one, even highly educated people, will state otherwise. I studied criminology in college (not as a major) and I was still misled.

I mean here's the first thing that pops into my head when people bring up those statistical disparities: There are even larger disparities between women and men and few people claim the system is rigged against men.

Plenty of other studies disagree. This Washington post article cites many.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/opinions/wp/2018/09/18/theres-overwhelming-evidence-that-the-criminal-justice-system-is-racist-heres-the-proof/P

#gaslighting

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
#gaslighting
Pretty much, don't know why though.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I mean here's the first thing that pops into my head when people bring up those statistical disparities: There are even larger disparities between women and men and few people claim the system is rigged against men.

Plenty of people complain about sexism in the criminal justice system.

SJW's were wrong?

Damn, I look forward to your "Water is wet" topic next DDM...

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Plenty of other studies disagree. This Washington post article cites many.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/opinions/wp/2018/09/18/theres-overwhelming-evidence-that-the-criminal-justice-system-is-racist-heres-the-proof/P

Shut up, libtard. You and your studies.

I actually heard there's racial discrimination in the US justice and Penal system but it's biased against White people. Nothing harder than being White in America.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Plenty of other studies disagree. This Washington post article cites many.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/opinions/wp/2018/09/18/theres-overwhelming-evidence-that-the-criminal-justice-system-is-racist-heres-the-proof/P

A "WashedUpPost" article.. Well at least we know it won't becoming from a Biased Source or anything....

HA!

Originally posted by Putinbot1
[B]Plenty of other studies disagree. This Washington post article cites many.

[url]https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/opinions/wp/2018/09/18/theres-overwhelming-evidence-that-the-criminal-justice-system-is-racist-heres-the-proof/P

That's not correct.

I only made it through the first half and still not a single entry that relates to this thread. That article appears to be off-topic.

The focus is CJS and incarceration. And there are a myriad of problems with using those studies and with the studies themselves. I clearly don't have the time to break down why most of those, taken with a superficial understanding, is dishonest.

Originally posted by Robtard
Shut up, libtard. You and your studies.

I actually heard there's racial discrimination in the US justice and Penal system but it's biased against White people. Nothing harder than being White in America.

Correct. You're posting on topic. And the research points to what you just said as being correct, as well.

Law Enforcement practices, however, is a different topic and different thread.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]A "WashedUpPost" article.. Well at least we know it won't becoming from a Biased Source or anything....

HA! [/B]

You cannot dismiss all the of the research the author put together just because you don't like it. While that article seems to not be relevant to this thread, there's still some great content in it. Read it. Follow up on the studies, too.

I agree with you that it's not a race problem, but a culture problem. The issue is that there are people(both white and black) who will view "black culture is the problem" as still being racist.

If a certain group commits more crime I don't think it's fair to essentially blame their DNA.

TIL: Surtur believes "black culture" is the problem

j/k I've known this for a long time now.

Pray tell, what is your solution to the problem of "black culture"? Sell me on it.

Originally posted by Robtard
TIL: Surtur believes "black culture" is the problem

j/k I've known this for a long time now.

Pray tell, what is your solution to the problem of "black culture"? Sell me on it.

Lol@ you self triggering over this. I'm not here to sell you on anything. Give it a rest.

Fathers staying in the home would be a solid start.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Fathers staying in the home would be a solid start.

Yep. I would say a combination of increased sexual education and increased access to condoms would also help. Access to better education in general would help(this doesn't apply only to this community)

Originally posted by Robtard
TIL: Surtur believes "black culture" is the problem

j/k I've known this for a long time now.

Pray tell, what is your solution to the problem of "black culture"? Sell me on it.


Well the first step is of course, acknowledging that there's a problem(which far more people need to do). As for an actual course of action, that's really seems like something black people themselves will have to decide. It's their culture, if non blacks try to force change upon it there's going to be some heavy resistance.

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol@ you self triggering over this. I'm not here to sell you on anything. Give it a rest.

So you don't have a solution then to the "black culture" problem. Gotcha.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Fathers staying in the home would be a solid start.

What's the cause of that iyo?