Originally posted by darthgoober
A person doesn't need to know how to fix a car to tell that there's a problem with one.
But if ones does, they can more accurately properly access what is actually wrong instead of yelling out “it’s the transmission” like a novice when the problem is a fault elsewhere 🙂
Originally posted by Robtard
But if ones does, they can more accurately properly access what is actually wrong instead of yelling out “it’s the transmission” like a novice when the problem is a fault elsewhere 🙂
And yet it also would be foolish to stay silent if you knew the car had a problem, but merely did not know the specific cause. And only a fool would cry over it 🙂
Originally posted by Robtard
What's the cause of that iyo?
An overlay of many things likely.
One could argue certain welfare programs make a two parent household less of an economic necessity and thus there's less incentive for a two parent household. It's also likely the war on drugs had a significant impact on fatherlessness in the black community (the war on drugs has been something I've consistently been strongly against for the past 6 years). It's also likely the modern attitudes in our culture towards sex, marriage, and commitment have something to do with it given that the single motherhood rate for every community has been increasing in recent decades.
I wouldn't say it's a problem with a simple cause or a simple fix, though the adoption of more personal responsibility by men in this community, society as a whole adopting a better attitude towards sex and marriage, and ending the war on drugs would be a decent place to start.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Not slavery and Jim Crow considering the statistics on single motherhood were actually better for the black community in 1960.An overlay of many things likely.
One could argue certain welfare programs make a two parent household less of an economic necessity and thus there's less incentive for a two parent household. It's also likely the war on drugs had a significant impact on fatherlessness in the black community (the war on drugs has been something I've consistently been strongly against for the past 6 years). It's also likely the modern attitudes in our culture towards sex, marriage, and commitment have something to do with it given that the single motherhood rate for every community has been increasing in recent decades.
I wouldn't say it's a problem with a simple cause or a simple fix, though the adoption of more personal responsibility by men in this community, society as a whole adopting a better attitude towards sex and marriage, and ending the war on drugs would be a decent place to start.
For the two parent household thing...I think you're talking about the "Great Society" programs by LBJ right?
Originally posted by Robtard
TIL: Surtur believes "black culture" is the problemj/k I've known this for a long time now.
Pray tell, what is your solution to the problem of "black culture"? Sell me on it.
Stop making this a pissing match with Surtur.
Black American Culture IS the problem. I've posted about this before with actual research that showed Sub-Saharan African (black people) immigrants get into less trouble than almost any race demographic in the US. Clearly, it is not a race issue. You cannot be intellectually honest and also say "black people are naturally criminals compared to other races." The evidence points to a culture issue. And as I put in the OP, it's also a socio-economic issue.
Surtur is right about this. To say Sutur is wrong is to ignore the fact that tens of thousands of black immigrants are damn good Citizens and Aliens. Sometimes, it's harmful to the minorities you intend to help by ignoring the issues those minorities face. A toxic culture is one of the many issues black Americans face and people in and out of the black community have been working decades to try and get rid of that toxicity.
Alright, off my soap-box. Go back to mocking Surtur.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Not slavery and Jim Crow considering the statistics on single motherhood were actually better for the black community in 1960.An overlay of many things likely.
You're not wrong. I posted about this before with quite a bit of research to back it up. Black men had better wage parity to white men in 1910 than they do now. For all the Social Justice (actual social justice, I mean this in a good way) progress we have made, it does appear that black families took a hard hit and there are multiple consequences such as the wage gap among black men vs. white men.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
One could argue certain welfare programs make a two parent household less of an economic necessity and thus there's less incentive for a two parent household. It's also likely the war on drugs had a significant impact on fatherlessness in the black community (the war on drugs has been something I've consistently been strongly against for the past 6 years). It's also likely the modern attitudes in our culture towards sex, marriage, and commitment have something to do with it given that the single motherhood rate for every community has been increasing in recent decades.I wouldn't say it's a problem with a simple cause or a simple fix, though the adoption of more personal responsibility by men in this community, society as a whole adopting a better attitude towards sex and marriage, and ending the war on drugs would be a decent place to start.
Hear me out...don't shut down your mind after reading this next part:
The points you bring up are why we need Universal Healthcare, Universal Basic Income, and free contraceptives. Many of the problems the black community faces (the primary one being: breaking the cycle of poverty) can be addressed by those 3 key items.
Originally posted by Robtard
But if ones does, they can more accurately properly access what is actually wrong instead of yelling out “it’s the transmission” like a novice when the problem is a fault elsewhere 🙂
Yeah... but you also don't have to know how to fix a transmission to have a good idea if one is screwing up. Bring your car to a mechanic, and he'll normally ask you what seems to be wrong with it or what it's doing rather than telling you not to bother because he needs to start blind and look at each individual thing that can possibly go wrong on a car himself. I had a car that didn't shift worth a shit, so I knew there was most likely something wrong with the transmission. I didn't know what it was exactly and didn't have the first idea of how to fix it, but the fact that it was a transmission issue was fairly obvious. You can have a general idea of what the problem is with something without having specific knowledge of the complicated inner workings of it or how to fix the problem.
Originally posted by dadudemonSafety nets like you talk about are basic human rights in my opinion. I don't disagree with any of these solutions, I'd actually go further but fair play.
You're not wrong. I posted about this before with quite a bit of research to back it up. Black men had better wage parity to white men in 1910 than they do now. For all the Social Justice (actual social justice, I mean this in a good way) progress we have made, it does appear that black families took a hard hit and there are multiple consequences such as the wage gap among black men vs. white men.Hear me out...don't shut down your mind after reading this next part:
The points you bring up are why we need Universal Healthcare, Universal Basic Income, and free contraceptives. Many of the problems the black community faces (the primary one being: breaking the cycle of poverty) can be addressed by those 3 key items.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Hear me out...don't shut down your mind after reading this next part:The points you bring up are why we need Universal Healthcare, Universal Basic Income, and free contraceptives. Many of the problems the black community faces (the primary one being: breaking the cycle of poverty) can be addressed by those 3 key items.
But muh bootstraps.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Stop making this a pissing match with Surtur.Black American Culture IS the problem. I've posted about this before with actual research that showed Sub-Saharan African (black people) immigrants get into less trouble than almost any race demographic in the US. Clearly, it is not a race issue. You cannot be intellectually honest and also say "black people are naturally criminals compared to other races." The evidence points to a culture issue. And as I put in the OP, it's also a socio-economic issue.
Surtur is right about this. To say Sutur is wrong is to ignore the fact that tens of thousands of black immigrants are damn good Citizens and Aliens. Sometimes, it's harmful to the minorities you intend to help by ignoring the issues those minorities face. A toxic culture is one of the many issues black Americans face and people in and out of the black community have been working decades to try and get rid of that toxicity.
Alright, off my soap-box. Go back to mocking Surtur.
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Originally posted by Emperordmb
Not slavery and Jim Crow considering the statistics on single motherhood were actually better for the black community in 1960.An overlay of many things likely.
One could argue certain welfare programs make a two parent household less of an economic necessity and thus there's less incentive for a two parent household. It's also likely the war on drugs had a significant impact on fatherlessness in the black community (the war on drugs has been something I've consistently been strongly against for the past 6 years). It's also likely the modern attitudes in our culture towards sex, marriage, and commitment have something to do with it given that the single motherhood rate for every community has been increasing in recent decades.
I wouldn't say it's a problem with a simple cause or a simple fix, though the adoption of more personal responsibility by men in this community, society as a whole adopting a better attitude towards sex and marriage, and ending the war on drugs would be a decent place to start.
That's for the input and far enough on the 'war on drugs' angle.
Poverty has a lot to do with crime, especially certain crimes like theft, robbery and violence; especially gang violence.