Starro the Conqueror vs. Rogol Zaar

Originally posted by cdtm
None at all.

If Starro uses TP, Rogol loses.

But people are so invested in if he could use it to win, they'd ignoring the question of WOULD he use it to win.

This is a character who not only exclusively used physical attacks, but kept fighting invincible Black Lanterns to the point that Dox's son assumed he had a death wish. That means Starro would have kept fighting, until they overwhelmed him.

That does not sound like a character who would resort to an easy win. Or even a fall back plan, if physical attacks weren't cutting it.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Then why did he attack Despero with TP? 😬

Despero was the one to engage into a telepathic contest.

So cdtm thinks a character that mind-controls several galaxies doesn't use his telepathy? Should we point out he's using an example of enemies where that strategy wouldn't work and that they were unable to hurt him in any way that mattered? Starro played with the Black Lanterns and with Despero, he was at no serious danger in either of those situations. The fact he exerts control over several galaxies suggests he doesn't refrain that much from it either.

There's also a difference between conquest to add to his power, and personal challenge.

As he said to Despero, "Your achievements are worthy."

He could have shut him down immediately, like he did his flunkies. Instead, he chose to engage him in personal combat, and take his head.

As for the Black Lanterns, they've been a major threat to Spectre. To Superboy Prime. Starro is powerful, yes, but to toy with beings that were going through the universe like a hot knife through butter is the definition of insanity.

What would he have done, if allowed to continue his game? Retreated? Because he couldn't win, ever.

So your argument is that Starro will fight with all the weapons at his disposal when adding to his power, but not when he's being beaten to death?

Originally posted by cdtm
There's also a difference between conquest to add to his power, and personal challenge.

As he said to Despero, "Your achievements are worthy."

He could have shut him down immediately, like he did his flunkies. Instead, he chose to engage him in personal combat, and take his head.

As for the Black Lanterns, they've been a major threat to Spectre. To Superboy Prime. Starro is powerful, yes, but to toy with beings that were going through the universe like a hot knife through butter is the definition of insanity.

What would he have done, if allowed to continue his game? Retreated? Because he couldn't win, ever.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So your argument is that Starro will fight with all the weapons at his disposal when adding to his power, but not when he's being beaten to death?

All signs point to, yes.

I believe if left to his own devices, the Black Lanterns would have torn him apart, eventually. Just like they were doing to Superboy Prime.

Cool.

OP, please clarify why these two are fighting 🙂

Adding: The signs being: Starro has a hubris. He enjoys picking the strongest beings he can find, and playing with them.

Ask yourself this: How smart is it to kill Despero? He could have added him to his forces. Instead, he battled to the death.

That's Son Goku level shite. Goku uses all his devices, except when he doesn't want to, because fighting to the bitter end amuses him. Even when he's losing, he's having a blast.

I think Starro has the same hubris. Maybe he'd chicken out and resort to to an "I win" button, if being beaten to death. Generally, characters with his type of hubris would LOVE to meet someone so powerful, they're being beaten to death.

Kind of like One Punch Man's deal.

Originally posted by cdtm
Adding: The signs being: Starro has a hubris. He enjoys picking the strongest beings he can find, and playing with them.

Ask yourself this: How smart is it to kill Despero? He could have added him to his forces. Instead, he battled to the death.

That's Son Goku level shite. Goku uses all his devices, except when he doesn't want to, because fighting to the bitter end amuses him. Even when he's losing, he's having a blast.

I think Starro has the same hubris. Maybe he'd chicken out and resort to to an "I win" button, if being beaten to death. Generally, characters with his type of hubris would LOVE to meet someone so powerful, they're being beaten to death.

Kind of like One Punch Man's deal.

StC states that he wanted Despero to join him, but he already knew it wouldn’t happen.