Originally posted by LordGodAs of Snyder's JL, at least, Spectre is a bonafide member of the Quintessence:
When did Spectre become a member of the Quintessence? Didn't it just used to be PS?
He used to just work closely with the Quintessence, but wasn't technically part of their ranks. In fact, Spectre used to regard them as a "higher authority" than himself:
So I'm not sure exactly *when* Spectre got promoted, but he's obviously part of the club now.
Originally posted by YousufKhan1212
Hulk had a lot of crazy feats in that story. I didn't read all the tie ins, but his battle with the X-Men was also crazy.
Yep, and he was holding back during all of that. His battle with Ironman split New York in half. Punching each other in the face split the entire area in half and again, all of that is while he was holding back. Then he went on after that to almost killing Hercules with a couple of blows.
Originally posted by PhilosophiaI agree.
Imo, Spectre should be above all the beings in the Multiverse [exceptions being the likes of Michael/Lucifer and Mxy that are by definition beyond it --- and the first two are essentially either dead or unrecognizable]. He is essentially a direct agent of the Source, too -- so to see him being destroyed at every turn [see Geoff Johns] is a bit shit.I mean..
I don't understand how the 'past selves' thing works -- is it like him merging the avatars in each Universe within the Multiverse, or like... literally him merging with himself from yesterday, last week, last month etc. ad infinitum? We'll see, I guess.
Frankly, I think most writers tend to forget(or ignore) that Spectre is literally an aspect of the Presence himself(the embodiment of his vengeance/wrath/judgement), and typically just write him as an 'ordinary' cosmic being, with defined limitations(which he really shouldn't have.)
Originally posted by Galan007
I agree.Frankly, I think most writers tend to forget(or ignore) that Spectre is literally an aspect of the Presence himself(the embodiment of his vengeance/wrath/judgement), and typically just write him as an 'ordinary' cosmic being, with defined limitations(which he really shouldn't have.)
ever since the cosmic raptor coming into existence I felt Spectre would be lower.
Originally posted by Galan007Im not sure about Spectre being part of the Quintessence. His status seems lower than other members in the Quintessence. I personally think he is an assistant to the Quintessence
As of Snyder's JL, at least, Spectre is a bonafide member of the Quintessence:
He used to just work closely with the Quintessence, but wasn't technically part of their ranks. In fact, Spectre used to regard them as a "higher authority" than himself:
So I'm not sure exactly *when* Spectre got promoted, but he's obviously part of the club now.
Originally posted by MrMind
I don't get why it's called the cosmic raptor when it's clearly a black eagle
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Originally posted by Galan007
I agree.Frankly, I think most writers tend to forget(or ignore) that Spectre is literally an aspect of the Presence himself(the embodiment of his vengeance/wrath/judgement), and typically just write him as an 'ordinary' cosmic being, with defined limitations(which he really shouldn't have.)
the limitations of Spectre is what Presences makes it.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998That's possible. Spectre's dialogue in the preview seems to indicate that he doesn't identify with the Quintessence, and is almost acting as more of a mediator between the Quintessence and Dianna -- the voice of the council, if you will.
Im not sure about Spectre being part of the Quintessence. His status seems lower than other members in the Quintessence. I personally think he is an assistant to the Quintessence
Either way, he still gets merc'd by Darkseid if the spoilers abhi posted are legit.
Originally posted by Galan007
That's possible. Spectre's dialogue in the preview seems to indicate that he doesn't identify with the Quintessence, and is almost acting as more of a mediator between the Quintessence and Dianna -- the voice of the council, if you will.Either way, he still gets merc'd by Darkseid if the spoilers abhi posted are legit.
oh it's def happening
Originally posted by MrMind
so this is some of what will happen in infinite frontier[b]Wonder Woman
At the end of Death Metal #7, Wonder Woman died. Um, spoilers. It may not have been entirely clear, and indeed she's explicitly told that's not what happened – but in Infinite Frontier #0, it's basically that. Sacrificing herself as part of the cost of resetting the multiverse, the Omniverse, in the eyes of The Hands who were all ready to be done with the place. And those left behind her in mourning.
So how is she in Infinite Frontier #0? The solicitation says that "Beyond the mortal world, Wonder Woman settles into a new role in the godsphere" while in Wonder Woman #770, it reads "it's just another day in Valhalla! The warriors here spend their days fighting and their nights drinking—and if they die in combat they'll be resurrected in time for the party. Strange, though, that no one seems surprised to see Wonder Woman in this crowd. It's up to Diana to find out why things are going wrong in the Sphere of the Gods—and whether it has anything to do with what landed her in the Norse afterlife."
Which is why we have seen Wonder Woman's new, ethereal look. She's no longer on the mortal sphere, and she's going on an Infinite Frontier tour by The Spectre in a Books Of Magic style, as she has choices.
The timeline has been reset, and all of history is remembered. Wonder Woman is "The One", she could ascend to godhood on Olympus. Or she could join the Quintessence, alongside Phantom Stranger, Spectre, Highfather, Mamaragan, Hera and Ganthet, that lot. And so… she prevaricates. And since she's read all the 5G books that may or may not come to pass, she wants a look at what comes next before making her choice.
Of course that also involves a tonne of Themyscirians jostling to be the New Wonder Woman even as they mourn her. She's not even cold… [/B]
Originally posted by MrMind
[b]Batman:Joker attacks Arkham with gas. We never actually see him and it's mentioned that none of the victims are laughing, I think it might be a false flag by Scarecrow. Bane is killed in the attack.
A billionaire named Simon Saint is trying to make the Magistrate program a thing and working with Scarecrow.Wonder Woman:
Amazons are fighting over who gets to be the new Wonder Woman, Hippolyta gives them a test. Nubia wins, Hippolyta gives her the crown and makes her queen before leaving to be the new Wonder Woman herself.
Hippolyta somehow knows Yara by name, Diana has never heard of her.
Yara left Brazil when she was a child too young to remember it, she was raised by her (deaf) aunt and (white) uncle in Idaho. As an adult she's traveling back to Brazil for the first time.Green Lantern:
Alan comes out of the closet.
John and Baz are taking Teen Lantern to Oa because the Guardians want to know why she has the gauntlet.Superman:
Spectre has talks about Jon being unfit to be Superman, and that he could end up a tyrant, but he gets proven wrong.
Green Arrow:
Roy is alive again, but isn't ready to tell anyone.
Flash.
Barry is invited to join Justice Incarnate by Superman-23. Wally is the new Flash.
The Alpha World and The Omega World
They name the second world that's at the center of the new multiverse with the Elseworld. Earth Omega. It's described as a place of endings, where even gods die. Darkseid is back and stronger than ever, saying that all past aspects of himself have combined into one. He kills the Quintessence.
Williamson doing a rehash of Johns Rebirth issue meta commentary:
There's a little speech from Diana that's clearly a shot at Didio. "For years, our lives were infected with despair. An omnipotent force from another world manipulated us as part of some grand experiment. It stole away so much. Our sense of legacy, our connections and faith in ourselves. We believed it's lies for too long. It let worse aspects of the multiverse hurt us." [/B]
Originally posted by Galan007That's how most of his appearances are. Should really keep him out of cameos or "teams" and have a solid ongoing with him and then have cameos after people were forced to read it.
I agree.Frankly, I think most writers tend to forget(or ignore) that Spectre is literally an aspect of the Presence himself(the embodiment of his vengeance/wrath/judgement), and typically just write him as an 'ordinary' cosmic being, with defined limitations(which he really shouldn't have.)
Most cosmic/divine beings tbh. Would love if Morrison was forced to write a mini or graphic novel on him.