Comic Book Questions & Discussion

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Originally posted by MrMind
which is confusing because you are suggesting the new multiverse is the apokolips prison where future lois is operating at

so you are saying superman went from the pocket universe to the new multiverse to the sixth dimension (he went past future lois), punched world forger, thus destroyed the new multiverse along with lois and every living beings in it?


Yes. That's what the comic shows.

Originally posted by MrMind
thus destroyed the new multiverse along with lois and every living beings in it?

It is only multiversal anvil containing possibiliy which will become multiverse.
Superman destroyed multiversal anvil though, he doesn't kill anyone.
You know it?
But, destroying anvil can be multiversal feat, can't it?

Personally, i totally agree with Galan.

But are you EineFaust?

Originally posted by CatL18
It is only multiversal anvil containing possibiliy which will become multiverse.
Superman destroyed multiversal anvil though, he doesn't kill anyone.
You know it?
But, destroying anvil can be multiversal feat, can't it?

Personally, i totally agree with Galan.

your interpretation is similar to mine, abhi is saying the apokolips prison where JL got locked up in issue 23 was the future multiverse. if that's true superman just commited mass genocide

Originally posted by Galan007
Just saw this.

I think it depends how you view the feat. Do I think Superman can throw his fist into thin air and collapse multiverses? No.

That being said, I think we can both agree that World Forger created a full-fledged multiverse that was linked to Hypertime. His multiverse was such a perfect replica of the mainstream multiverse, in fact, that he was confident that even the Judges of the Source(one of whom was powerful enough to one-shot Perpetua and create the Source Wall) wouldn't even notice the switch.

With that in mind, World Forger's multiverse was also directly connected to/housed within his Crisis Anvil. Once his Hammer was lit and struck the Anvil, *poof*, his new multiverse would instantly replace the existing one. So ultimately, the act of Superman destroying World Forger's Anvil collapsed his multiverse as a direct corollary.

...And given the ridiculously meta/esoteric/cosmic nature of World Forger and his Anvil(we're talking about fully multiversal and multidimensional powers here), I think we can also agree that destroying it with a single blow would still require a level of strength/power that is....hard to comprehend, really.

I think your post is the most accurate interpretation

the multiverse is already created somewhere, but we haven't seen it

Superman collapsed the multiverse as a direct effect from destroying the anvil. Really insane feat for sure, not the same as one shotting an entire multiverse by punching or kamekameha it.

I think WF already had his Multiverse, he was going to use the Anvil to overwrite the current multiverse with his version..

Edit. Had not read galan's post.

Originally posted by CatL18
It is only multiversal anvil containing possibiliy which will become multiverse.
Superman destroyed multiversal anvil though, he doesn't kill anyone.
You know it?
But, destroying anvil can be multiversal feat, can't it?

Personally, i totally agree with Galan.

Have the same opinion of this. Superman destroying a thing that containning/creating multiverse but not destroying multiverse, But I think this was due to Supes punch range not as big as energy blast in generally, This feat requires strength still should be multiversal more or less

#new

Savage avengers #2

Logan using his blood to jump start dr voodoo's heart

Where are rage and Celey. Can't be a good Superman feat without "Obviously Thor can do it too".

not joking, after today, sundipped superman can destroy the most powerful versions of thors through out history at the same time with a single punch

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
#new

Savage avengers #2

Logan using his blood to jump start dr voodoo's heart

Hey, pretty awesome.

Thanks for posting, Alberto.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hey, pretty awesome.

Thanks for posting, Alberto.

you're welcome!

pretty cool logan can revive the dead

Well...Supes can defeat multiversal entities with a single punch now...what tier does that honestly make him do you guys think? It's not like he even sun dipped very long either....or do we create a new category for him like full power Superman and average portrayal Superman? Honestly I'm not sure how we even have him vs battles at this point...

Originally posted by Bentley
Supeman just became the biggest mass murderer in fiction 👆
Yeah everyone is sucking off this ridiculous feat but I'm here with my eyes bulging at Snyder haplessly writing Superman murdering countless quintillion of people.

At work so haven't read the issue yet but is there some way to read this in a way that doesn't give Superman a body count that would make the Anti ****ing Monitor green with envy?

So, Superman one shots a Multiversal being (one that's about Monitor, Anti-Monitor level, if I'm not mistaken) after flying with impossible speed, from a few sundips.

That's one of the most insane feats a super hero has ever done. What was the last feat Supes did at this level?

But, of course, I'm sure some will come up with crazy explanations to (try) downplay the feat. There isn't a guy here who says ww is the most power JL member? LOL.

Also, I don't think it makes sense to have Superman at Trans level anymore, let alone at "high herald" tier.

Originally posted by Kal-L
So, Superman one shots a Multiversal being (one that's about Monitor, Anti-Monitor level, if I'm not mistaken) after flying with impossible speed, from a few sundips.

That's one of the most insane feats a super hero has ever done. What was the last feat Supes did at this level?

But, of course, I'm sure some will come up with crazy explanations to (try) downplay the feat. There isn't a guy here who says ww is the most power JL member? LOL.

Also, I don't think it makes sense to have Superman at Trans level anymore, let alone at "high herald" tier.

lol comicvine users say this feat is continental level

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hey, pretty awesome.

That's quite stupid, actually, for multiple reasons:

(1) If the blood types don't match -- and Logan's and Voodoo's don't -- it means that their immune systems attack each other. Logan's "high octane mutant blood" would thus only serve to kill off Voodoo even faster. If anything, Logan's blood is effectively a deadly poison.

(2) Logan's blood being able to heal others HEAVILY contradicts with the entire character history. What, he has allowed a dozen or so of his girlfriends and loved ones to die in his arms without healing them -- but couldn't bear the loss of Voodoo and saved him?!

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yeah everyone is sucking off this ridiculous feat but I'm here with my eyes bulging at Snyder haplessly writing Superman murdering countless quintillion of people.

At work so haven't read the issue yet but is there some way to read this in a way that doesn't give Superman a body count that would make the Anti ****ing Monitor green with envy?

I personally don't think so, I mean this is more like Supes destroying a World Forger idealization timeline. Similar to one of storyline in pre-flashpoint Superman/Batman issues. Supes didnt killing anyone technically

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yeah everyone is sucking off this ridiculous feat but I'm here with my eyes bulging at Snyder haplessly writing Superman murdering countless quintillion of people.

At work so haven't read the issue yet but is there some way to read this in a way that doesn't give Superman a body count that would make the Anti ****ing Monitor green with envy?


He didn't know his punch would destroy the multiverse; he was aiming at WF. It was an accident --> not a murder.

I really hope superman stomps a mudhole in dr manhattan