Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Started by Sin I AM1,926 pages

Flash saying it's faster doesn't help any of these arguments

Well, I guess you can argue Flash can't acclerate to 99% of light speed in the space of a femtosecond based on the scan.

But I don't think it can be used to argue Flash is sub-lightspeed due to the reason I said above. Since Cyborg should be talking about the acceleration, not the speed it hits the target

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Flash saying it's faster doesn't help any of these arguments

It helps mine.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nice fanart 👆

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Hmm, I don't think Cyborg means its moving sub-lightspeed at the time it hits the target. Because light can only travel 300 nanometers in a femtosecond

Source: https://news.mit.edu/2012/explained-femtoseconds-and-attoseconds

So it is more likely Cyborg was talking about it's acceleration, not the speed its moving at that time

I get that you want the missiles to be super-C so that Flash’s comment can’t be used against him but it’s a lot more credible to just chalk it up to a PIS statement from Flash. Cyborg says the missiles instantly accelerated to 99% c. Maybe they kept accelerating past that but that’s nowhere in the scan, so it’s just a theory.

And Flash’s comment was about speed, not rate of acceleration, so… it’s just dumb writing. Throw a hero under the bus with a moment of idiocy so the reader goes “wow!”

Well, I just think the scan doesn't necessarily mean Flash is sub-lightspeed or something( and femtosecond is a time unit, not a speed rate). Because like you said, Flash was talking about it's speed, however, Cyborg was talking about it's acceleration

Basically what I said in this post

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Well, I guess you can argue Flash can't acclerate to 99% of light speed in the space of a femtosecond based on the scan.

But I don't think it can be used to argue Flash is sub-lightspeed due to the reason I said above. Since Cyborg should be talking about the acceleration, not the speed it hits the target

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Well, I guess you can argue Flash can't acclerate to 99% of light speed in the space of a femtosecond based on the scan.

But I don't think it can be used to argue Flash is sub-lightspeed due to the reason I said above. Since Cyborg should be talking about the acceleration, not the speed it hits the target

That's because you're clever... you're wrong though

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It helps mine.

😘😘😘

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Well, I just think the scan doesn't necessarily mean Flash is sub-lightspeed or something( and femtosecond is a time unit, not a speed rate). Because like you said, Flash was talking about it's speed, however, Cyborg was talking about it's acceleration

Basically what I said in this post

I mean if we agree that Flash was talking about speed… the rest is moot right?

I assume we also agree that Flash was wrong. So the scan doesn’t mean that Flash is sub-light or faster because his comment is meaningless.

If we assumed a constant coordinate acceleration (= the acceleration measured by an external observer such as Cyborg), the acceleration of the drone would be: a = 3.0×10^23 m/s^2.

However, a more natural assumption here is that the drone engines produce a constant proper acceleration (= the acceleration felt on-board the drone), which in this case turns out to be:
a₀ = 2.1×10^24 m/s^2.

If the (rest) mass of the drone is approximately 1 kg (and its fuel is massless), the drone engines must be able to generate an accelerating force equal to the standard weight of 3 Moons. Or 30 Moons, if the drone mass is 10 kg instead. Not bad. And this assumes no drag due to air. So, this calculation still downplays the drone's feat by a lot.

Yeah, basically is moot. But I just think people seem to have some misunderstandings about the term "femtosecond" or some such. It can't job due to the speed

It pretty much like me saying: "My car accelerate to 30 km per hour, the hour jobbed" this makes no sense at all

You took it too literally. It's a reference to the casualness in which DC uses time to depict speed for mundane things...such as drones.

Lol

Physics jobbing every day to writer stupidity and laziness

Originally posted by Smurph
Lol

Physics jobbing every day to writer stupidity and laziness


This actually is a relatively scientific compared to the others( for example: https://i.imgur.com/NkrAq7U.jpg)

At least, in the scan, Cyborg only talked about acceleration of the drones, not it's speed. Does it accelerate beyond 99% lightspeed? never mentioned, but on the other hand, it also didn't mention it stops accelerating after the femtosecond it reached 99% lightspeed, you also need to add something to make the drones' speed capped at 99% lightspeed

In a nutshell, It is like saying "Object A accelerated to 99 percent of the speed of sound in 0.0000000001 second, it is faster than object B". the only thing we can be certain is object A's speed is at least 99 percent of the speed of sound, however, it doesn't necessarily mean object B's speed is slower than 99% the speed of sound

Or just look at Magnon's calculation when he replaced the time unit to seconds instead of femtoseconds to see what I mean

Originally posted by Magnon
If we assumed a constant coordinate acceleration (= the acceleration measured by an external observer such as Cyborg), the acceleration of the drone would be: a = 3.0×10^23 m/s^2.

However, a more natural assumption here is that the drone engines produce a constant proper acceleration (= the acceleration felt on-board the drone), which in this case turns out to be:
a₀ = 2.1×10^24 m/s^2.

If the (rest) mass of the drone is approximately 1 kg (and its fuel is massless), the drone engines must be able to generate an accelerating force equal to the standard weight of 3 Moons. Or 30 Moons, if the drone mass is 10 kg instead. Not bad. And this assumes no drag due to air. So, this calculation still downplays the drone's feat by a lot.

Or writers have no idea what they're talking about ....

Maybe, maybe not. The point is the writer actually didn't make some grave mistakes in the scan Abhi posted.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or writers have no idea what they're talking about ....
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Maybe, maybe not. The point is the writer actually didn't make some grave mistakes in the scan Abhi posted.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or writers have no idea what they're talking about ....
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998

Submit... it'll be easier for you

Nah, I shall give credit where it is due.