Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I had this in Carver's 'who can replicate this' thread, with the timeframe given in micro (mili?) seconds.

Gladiator and Hyperion's fight was in the space of nanoseconds. Literally thousands of times faster ....but the art doesn't look 'cool'.

The recent JL fight where Naomi made her debut was supposedly at superspeed - but the art didn't show it, we only knew about it thanks to dialogue.

For example, say JRJ did the artwork for one version of an all-out fight between Hulk and Superman. Then say Murata(the artist for OPM) did the artwork for another version of the same fight... Even if the narration/story for each battle was the exact same, Murata's version is going to look like an absolute masterpiece and come off as far more grandiose than JRJ's shoddy garbage -- but that wouldn't change the fact that the SAME events are taking place, per the associated narration.

Point being, stellar artwork(awesome as it is to look at) doesn't really mean shit where versus battles are concerned. Writer intent, and the narration/explanation accompanying a particular feat, is what really matters.

Originally posted by carver9
We have no idea the size of the planet or if previous supermen damaged it beforehand. We know how big Jupiter moons are. Huge difference here.

Do we know the particular moon that Saitama and Garou landed on? If not, then I don't know what you're getting at?

Originally posted by Galan007
Do we know the particular moon that Saitama and Garou landed on?

- One Punch Man #167

Even though it wasn't stated in the chapter, you could be right.

But even in that case, Io is only marginally larger than earth's moon. Still a great feat for Saitama(not taking away from that), but I don't see how it skyrockets him into these 'unbeatable' echelons of power that some are claiming.

...Though there might be more to this discussion than I've bothered to follow? Not sure.

I've been saying that we should wait until the battle ends before we draw any conclusions. Because we might get context clarifying the feats that have already taken place, we might get new more impressive feats, and we might get a sequence of underwhelming feats that puts the recent seemingly impressive feats into question.

what exactly is the best feat there? saitma destroying a moon?

because thats low herald level by comic standards. by dbz standards it's way below raditz level. i mean it was cool how saitma was grabbing those portals or whatever but how would that help him against an opponent who didn't rely on them to port around?

^ That ain't Saitama's best feat.

Originally posted by Galan007
Even though it wasn't stated in the chapter, you could be right.

So the implication is it was Io that they landed on.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
what exactly is the best feat there?

One Punch Man #165

One Punch Man #167

Based on the previous issues, the best feat is Saitma tanked Garou's Gamma-ray burst.

This issue certainly looks cool, but it definitely not skyrockets him into " a character that basically nobody can beat" status, is what Galan and DS were trying to say I think

Originally posted by Astner
I've been saying that we should wait until the battle ends before we draw any conclusions. Because we might get context clarifying the feats that have already taken place, we might get new more impressive feats, and we might get a sequence of underwhelming feats that puts the recent seemingly impressive feats into question.

My only point is that as of now...right now...I'm not really sure why Saitama is being wanked so hard based on the actual feats he has preformed. They are certainly impressive, no doubt, but obviously not beyond the realm of what many comic characters can/have done.

That said, I will be surprised if Saitama accumulates any real 'lows' by the end of this arc, because he seems to just be consistently stepping it up more and more.

Originally posted by ODG
The title of the chapter was I.O.

So the implication is it was Io that they landed on.

Originally posted by Galan007
But I mean... Can't the same line of logic apply to virtually any fictional hero? ie. "Just wait until the next chapter to see what they can REALLY do", etc. /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
My only point is that as of now...right now...I'm not really sure why Saitama is being wanked so hard based on the actual feats he has preformed. They are certainly impressive, no doubt, but obviously not beyond the realm of what many comic characters can/have done.

Usually these kind of feats tend to be reserved for the climax or the end of a fight.

I don't disagree at all. That's perfectly logical.

I'm moreso referring to some of the initial claims that based on what Saitama has done as of now, he could solo the entire JL roster and whatnot.

Originally posted by Astner
Either the gamma-ray burst or the hole in the sky, but they're both ambiguous.

..,. but I mean... the implication is that the shared impact that was focused destroyed everything in its path, including stars, and left a complete void.

It's like if you took WBH and amped Betty's impact and Umar shifted all that shared impact's force away into a specific direction that wiped out planets in the distance. It's nuts.

Originally posted by ODG
^ That ain't Saitama's best feat.

^ The shared feat of cutting a void through distant space and destroying stars in its wake. Shared, yes. But... even if it's shared and focused (and therefore, arguably amplified), destroying stars in its wake is nuts.

Originally posted by Astner
Considering we're in the middle of Saitama's toughest battle, Saitama has never exerted himself before, and it's a biweekly release, I'd personally just wait than work with what we have. Especially considering the ambiguity of the feats mentioned above.

I think it'a a consequence of them being casual and occurring in rapid succession.

Usually these kind of feats tend to be reserved for the climax or the end of a fight.

While Saitama can cut loose against Awakened Garou, he ain't going all-out. I mean, he's doing everything one-handed.

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm moreso referring to some of the initial claims that based on what Saitama has done as of now, he could solo the entire JL roster and whatnot.

Originally posted by ODG
I would agree tanking the "gamma ray" attack was ambiguous. But then that hole in the sky space happened.

^ I wasn't taking the the gamma ray attack literally at first. Yes, the narration clearly implied that Awakened Garou's attack was literally as powerful as a true gamma ray burst. And gamma ray bursts only happen during the most powerful supernovas. The narration clearly states that gamma ray bursts are the most destructive phenomena (outside the Big Bang... which they are).

But I figured, at worst, the attack only imitated the violent nature of an actual gamma ray burst. At best, if it were a gamma ray burst, that sh1t is intergalactic. I was assuming the former... until their follow-up exchange ended up blowing a void through distant space. I mean... even gamma ray bursts don't do that, right?

Alas, Carver has a disciple now in Stilt.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Alas, Carver has a disciple now in Stilt.

Originally posted by carver9
It's a sign of desperation. You're insulting stilt because you're desperate.

Originally posted by ODG
While Saitama can cut loose against Awakened Garou, he ain't going all-out. I mean, he's doing everything one-handed.

And we had a similar situation with Boros, who was the first to be able to recover from Saitama's casual consecutive punches.

- One Punch Man #36

But it's made clear at the end of the chapter that Saitama still held back in that fight.