Originally posted by AstnerConvergence was worse from a plotter's standpoint.
Dark Crisis is boring as f*ck...three issues in and I just want this shit to end.Is anyone enjoying it? Because it's the most contrived and inconsequential story I've read in a while.
Dark Crisis would only be worse in the context of the DC fanboy's powerscaling fanbase. But they'll just collectively pretend it never happened. So... little harm done in the long run. Too bad this was Dick Grayson's company-wide hurrah. The character deserved better.
Hilariously ironic that the Empty Hand and Upside Down Man did absolutely nothing in this event leaving the ultimate humiliation to multiversal Darkseid, Nekron, Neron, Ares, Eclipso and Doomsday. Not even dedicated tie-in issues for these marquis DC supervillains.
Originally posted by ODG
Convergence was worse from a plotter's standpoint.
But as a self-contained story it wasn't bad.
Originally posted by ODG
Dark Crisis would only be worse in the context of the DC fanboy's powerscaling fanbase.
Originally posted by ODG
Hilariously ironic that the Empty Hand and Upside Down Man did absolutely nothing in this event leaving the ultimate humiliation to multiversal Darkseid, Nekron, Neron, Ares, Eclipso and Doomsday. Not even dedicated tie-in issues for these marquis DC supervillains.
Originally posted by Astner
Yes, but when your last reference to an infinite multiverse is Convergence, and you keep using that to reject the dozen-or-so references to Morrison's finite mulitverse since then, that's a clear case of confirmation bias.
Marvel has had worse contradictions in their cosmology.
Originally posted by ODG
Convergence was worse from a plotter's standpoint.Dark Crisis would only be worse in the context of the DC fanboy's powerscaling fanbase. But they'll just collectively pretend it never happened. So... little harm done in the long run. Too bad this was Dick Grayson's company-wide hurrah. The character deserved better.
Hilariously ironic that the Empty Hand and Upside Down Man did absolutely nothing in this event leaving the ultimate humiliation to multiversal Darkseid, Nekron, Neron, Ares, Eclipso and Doomsday. Not even dedicated tie-in issues for these marquis DC supervillains.
Originally posted by abhilegend
There's more references to an infinite multiverse than a finite multiverse. Hell, it was stated multiple times in Death Metal itself, continuing in Infinite Frontier.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Darkseid being shown as left hand of the great darkness has caused much chafing in this one's ass.
The Left Hand is just an empty title, or role, or however you want to refer to it.
Originally posted by Astner
Not after the introduction of Morrison's map (which depicted a finite muliverse), also don't conflate the Multiverse for the Omniverse, they weren't the same thing until today.
Why do you keep peddling the same bullshit?
Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]Why do you keep up this shit even after you've been corrected multiple times?Multiverse had new Earths growing after its resurrection.
Originally posted by abhilegend
"Multiverse expanding without limit"Infinite Frontier 0.
Its even stated directly for dummies too thick to understand that where there was only 52 universes, there are now countless without any boundaries. In the multiverse.
"This new multiverse is infinite"
It couldn't be clearer
Why would you even bring this up when Deathstroke ended up being more important to the Great Darkness (the fraction of it Pariah channeled anyhow) but also more powerful than Darkseid?
And that's relevant how?
The Left Hand is just an empty title, or role, or however you want to refer to it. [/B]
His right hand wrestled Presence itself (Who stalemated The Empty Hand) but left hand is empty title.
Marvel fanboys are so salty regarding Darkseid.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Why do you keep peddling the same bullshit?
Even the scans you fall back on to prove your position end up proving my position.
Originally posted by abhilegend
His right hand wrestled Presence itself (Who stalemated The Empty Hand) but left hand is empty title.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Marvel fanboys are so salty regarding Darkseid.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wasn't he famous for being wrong and a fraud....I mean, if you want to own that, you do you.....
"I'd like to say that we are Nostradamus filmmakers and we saw that coming, but none of us did, life threw a curveball, and I think though I view the election outcome as a tragedy, I think the movie becomes more relevant than ever." - Matt Tyrnauer, on CNN
Originally posted by Astner
I don't. The multiverse being exposed to the Omniverse as a consequence of the Source Wall being destroyed didn't change the initial structure beyond that, they were still separate objects.Even the scans you fall back on to prove your position end up proving my position.
No, he was just the diplomat for the handshake of the armistice between the two.
Being impartial in regards to this, I'd say that DC fanboys have a lot more to be upset about concerning the treatment of Darkseid in Justice League Incarnate and the follow-up in Dark Crisis, than Marvel fanboys.
That's technically true, but that's not how his name is used colloquially. It's used to refer to someone making astonishingly accurate predictions.
"I'd like to say that we are Nostradamus filmmakers and we saw that coming, but none of us did, life threw a curveball, and I think though I view the election outcome as a tragedy, I think the movie becomes more relevant than ever." - Matt Tyrnauer, on CNN
So in short, you're what the great unwashed masses would think of as smart, but anyone who actually possesses more than a skin deep knowledge of the subject would call a fraud and a hack?
That tracks.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So in short, you're what the great unwashed masses would think of as smart, but anyone who actually possesses more than a skin deep knowledge of the subject would call a fraud and a hack?That tracks.
Einstein is, colloquially, a synonym for smart. If I call someone "an Einstein," I mean that he's smart. Most people understand this.
What you're doing is the equivalent of taking "he's an Einstein" and responding with "so you're calling him a Jew," alluding to that Einstein was of Jewish descent. But that's not how the word is used.
Originally posted by Astner
You're reading too deep into this.Einstein is, colloquially, a synonym for smart. If I call someone "an Einstein," I mean that he's smart. Most people understand this.
What you're doing is the equivalent of taking "he's an Einstein" and responding with "so you're calling him a Jew," alluding to that Einstein was of Jewish descent. But that's not how the word is used.
Wow.
You're insinuating that it's mutually exclusive to be smart and a Jew, lmao. Whether you know that or not.
What a terrible analogy there, Nos.
Edit: it's more akin to you saying you're 'literally' dying. Or that 'its just a theory'. Or that you're making quantum leaps in your knowledge.
All technically incorrect, and as you say, it's fun to be correct.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wow.You're insinuating that it's mutually exclusive to be smart and a Jew, lmao. Whether you know that or not.
What a terrible analogy there, Nos.
Originally posted by Astner
[B]I don't. The multiverse being exposed to the Omniverse as a consequence of the Source Wall being destroyed didn't change the initial structure beyond that, they were still separate objects.
Sigh.
"This new multiverse is infinite"
Even the scans you fall back on to prove your position end up proving my position.
No, it doesn't lol.
No, he was just the diplomat for the handshake of the armistice between the two.
Lolwut?
Being impartial in regards to this, I'd say that DC fanboys have a lot more to be upset about concerning the treatment of Darkseid in Justice League Incarnate and the follow-up in Dark Crisis, than Marvel fanboys.
Where he kills the entire Quintessence casually and stalemated an amped Empty Hand, right hand of the great darkness? Can't see anyone complaining except the Marvel fanboys like you and dumbo.
Originally posted by Astner
No, I'm not.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Sigh."This new multiverse is infinite"
Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it doesn't lol.
Because from where I stand, you're not even trying to make sense of it. You're cherry-picking references and then weaving together your own head-canon to make DC seem as powerful as possible, and then you get mad when the stories contradict your interpretation that never made sense to begin with.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Lolwut?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Where he kills the entire Quintessence casually and stalemated an amped Empty Hand, right hand of the great darkness? Can't see anyone complaining except the Marvel fanboys like you and dumbo.
Originally posted by Astner
No, I'm not. And I'm not sure how you could misconstrue what I said to reach that conclusion. After all, I said that I use the word Einstein to refer to smart people. Why would I do that if I thought high-intelligence and Jewish-descent were mutually exclusive properties?
Because I am using the correct 'definition', as it were, of Nostradamus - someone who is incredibly, fantastically wrong in his predictions - and you are using the 'colloquial definition ' of him, that he is incredibly, fantastically right.
The two definitions are mutually exclusive. Hence, your analogy is wrong. I didn't say oh, Astner said he's a French guy herp derp, after all.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because I am using the correct 'definition', as it were, of Nostradamus - someone who is incredibly, fantastically wrong in his predictions - and you are using the 'colloquial definition ' of him, that he is incredibly, fantastically right.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The two definitions are mutually exclusive. Hence, your analogy is wrong. I didn't say oh, Astner said he's a French guy herp derp, after all.
