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Does the fact "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow" is the definitive Pre-Crisis Superman story, while the Canon DC Comics Presents 97 is largely forgotten, prove "Canon" is overrated?

Aarjoon

No. You are wrong. You are the only one who thinks that. Real dc fans like continuty. Canon is far more interesting.

Not sure how to even respond to this.

"Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow" is the definitive Pre-Crisis Superman story.. Mayyyybe "For the Man Who has Everything" is a contender, but the fact is WHTTMOT is a stone cold classic that has been reproduced, re'released, and riffed forever.

DC Comics Presents has, what, the famous Captain Marvel story where Sivana steals his powers? The finale is certainly NOTHING anyone is asking for, nor remembers fondly. Mxy wank aside.

Canon, schmannon, a good story is a good story. Star Wars Legends will always be real to me too, **** that "canon" where Han Solo doesn't become a respectable boy toy to a senator and lives happy with his three kids, while Luke becomes a Jedi Master and marries a smoking hot redhead.

Reading Robocop verses Terminator. A Frank Miller classic.

It's better than every Terminator movie after T-2, the universes come together beautifully, story should be canon.

Thor had a pretty good showing against Thanos. Actually had the advantage throughout the fight.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Your new job must be living hell, Pr, if you relax yourself by chatting with Todd.

You act like I have any alternatives.

Originally posted by carver9
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Superman powers makes him super smart. He doesn't have them in the scan I posted.

Again, you show you know **** all about Superman.

Your assumption is... what, that he somehow forgot building all those Superman robots, and all the other shit he's done over the years?

Originally posted by -Pr-
You act like I have any alternatives.

So the Marvel comic Transformers had this story where Megatron and his Deceptions invades this large facility with a giant computer movie theater sized screen run by a nerd who plays video games all day, and Optimus and friends tries to stop him, and they both agree to face off inside of one of the video games. So Megatron cheats, Optimus beats him anyways, but in doing so he sends some virtual people to their doom and argues he compromised his principles and really lost, and so gets blown up. And then it turns out the nerd copied his mind onto a 5 1/2 floppy, and at some point the floppy gets taken to Nebulos, origin point of the Headmasters, and they build a new body from scratch which gets powered by a fleshy partner who is engineered to become his engine.

So my question is, wohldni this technically make Optimus Prime a freak among his own kind? I mean imagine if a human mind was copied into this replica body made out of pig skin, you couldn't rightly even call that human anymore.

Hmmm... I really do not like the direction that Thor is taking when it comes to Hela. Kieron Gillen's origin story for Hela/Leah was so good and I am confused as to how this new twist could possibly reconcile with Hela/Leah.

Tumbleweed

Reading Terminator comics, starting with Frank Miller's classic crossover with Robocop. Currently on the later one from 2011, Robocop vs Terminator Kill Human, and there's this one scene where Robocop travels back in time. Critics of course jump on that claiming metal can't time travel.

But they forget the T-1000 did it. It's entirely made of liquid metal. And yes I know about the "flesh cocoon" that was planned, but the fact is on screen it wasn't a thing, no real reason Robocop couldn't just jump too. Basically Kyle Reese was wrong, he was a grunt not a time travel techie.

Originally posted by cdtm
Reading Terminator comics, starting with Frank Miller's classic crossover with Robocop. Currently on the later one from 2011, Robocop vs Terminator Kill Human, and there's this one scene where Robocop travels back in time. Critics of course jump on that claiming metal can't time travel.

But they forget the T-1000 did it. It's entirely made of liquid metal. And yes I know about the "flesh cocoon" that was planned, but the fact is on screen it wasn't a thing, no real reason Robocop couldn't just jump too. Basically Kyle Reese was wrong, he was a grunt not a time travel techie.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I only read the first one, which you are right is very good.

Yeah, that was peak Frank Miller, before he kind of lost his marbles.

As for the other one, it's Gunderson's Nuts, is nut so good.

I'll just spoil it with the bullet points;

A major running theme is how Robocop is a machine pretending to be a man, like the Terminator was a machine who learned to be more human. Which is absolutely nothing like the Robocop we know from the movies.

So, he's just sitting there in a museum in the future, and the last human on Earth stumbles across him, tries to steal his gun, and for some reason he comes online and starts protecting her. Then he jacks into Skynet, learns what's happened, and is forced to kill the human. After that Skynets cental core outright tells him where to go into the past, ominously saying "You are no threat to us, you are a machine."

So he goes back in time, disables the T2 Arnold Terminator with a bs virus Skynet just happened to have on tap and only used in the factory, He then kidnaps John and Sarah Conner to use as bait to lure the T-1000, openly saying several times to Sarah he could care less if John dies, all that matters is stopping Skynet.

After Sarah promptly shoots him in the head and kicks him out of the van, he shoots the van. T-1000 closes in and falls into a trap of about 50 ED-209's, which Murphy himself founded by giving the dick from the first Robocop all the information on how to build Omni-Consumer Products. Because getting everything in life handed to you makes you honest? 😰

T-1000 gets captured, Robocop loads them all onto a boat with a super acid, T-1000 gets loose, Robo locks it and John and Sarah and his new honest friend in with them, the boat sinks, EVERYONE DIES. Robo's last thoughts are "Hey, maybe this is why Skynet told me everything and sent me back? Because it knew I'd kill John Conner?"

And done de dumb dumb The End.

Nothing really more to it. All the subtlety of a sledge hammer.

Originally posted by cdtm
Yeah, that was peak Frank Miller, before he kind of lost his marbles.

As for the other one, it's Gunderson's Nuts, is nut so good.

I'll just spoil it with the bullet points;

A major running theme is how Robocop is a machine pretending to be a man, like the Terminator was a machine who learned to be more human. Which is absolutely nothing like the Robocop we know from the movies.

So, he's just sitting there in a museum in the future, and the last human on Earth stumbles across him, tries to steal his gun, and for some reason he comes online and starts protecting her. Then he jacks into Skynet, learns what's happened, and is forced to kill the human. After that Skynets cental core outright tells him where to go into the past, ominously saying "You are no threat to us, you are a machine."

So he goes back in time, disables the T2 Arnold Terminator with a bs virus Skynet just happened to have on tap and only used in the factory, He then kidnaps John and Sarah Conner to use as bait to lure the T-1000, openly saying several times to Sarah he could care less if John dies, all that matters is stopping Skynet.

After Sarah promptly shoots him in the head and kicks him out of the van, he shoots the van. T-1000 closes in and falls into a trap of about 50 ED-209's, which Murphy himself founded by giving the dick from the first Robocop all the information on how to build Omni-Consumer Products. Because getting everything in life handed to you makes you honest? 😰

T-1000 gets captured, Robocop loads them all onto a boat with a super acid, T-1000 gets loose, Robo locks it and John and Sarah and his new honest friend in with them, the boat sinks, EVERYONE DIES. Robo's last thoughts are "Hey, maybe this is why Skynet told me everything and sent me back? Because it knew I'd kill John Conner?"

And done de dumb dumb The End.

Nothing really more to it. All the subtlety of a sledge hammer.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
hmmmmmmm sounds shite.

My halfassed recap is probably more interesting then reading the thing, I say that with no conceit because it isn't a high bar to clear.

I mean, one review criticised everyone acting out of character. You can't even really call the subjects "characters", there is no characterization to speak of. Robocop himself is angry at being used by Skynet to murder the last human on Earth, and that's all we get out of him. No real soul searching, no inner conflict, no goddarned narrative! John Conner and Sarah Conner aren't explored in the least, and only have a handful of lines. The Arnold Terminator itself is a travesty, he stays mute for the entire run except to robotically say "Protect...John..Conner" (My memory may be acting up on the ellipses, but I swear that's how it sounded in reading). And as for the last humans on Earth..

Remember that one kid from Miiller's run? The little boy, "Last Boy on Earth"? With very minimalistic writing and masterful scene composition from Walter Simonson, I felt more for that boy then I did for John Conner himself when the T-1000 unceremoniously beheaded him.

My guess is the writer wasn't a fan of either franchise, didn't care enough to really do his research, and phoned in a script. Seen better fan works, much better, heck read better pornographic fiction.

Nico minrou owns Dormammu lmao

Minoru *

she looks cute, is she asian?

Funny how G.I. Joe has complete collections from Marvel and IDW bur nor the middle child Devils Due. The quality of those early comics could use some touching up.

And speaking of GI Joe, this one Snake Eyes story is kind of ridiculous. Duke gets infected with a virus, and Snake Eyes goes with him for a cure. And apparently the writer doesn't know virus's aren't affected by anti-biotics.

Like, this is stuff we all learned before middle school. A 2016 comic, no real excuse not to know you don't "cure" most virus's in general, let alone with anti-biotics.

You know bacteria actually create kinds of lets call them for simplicity antivirals for viruses in the way (not mechanism) fungi do antibiotics for bacteria. Weird but true fact and only really touched on so far.

Is that how anti-virals work? That's interesting, we should spend much more time and resources developing them then.