Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by carver9
Or it just shows that Hulk didn't need to be versatile to break out of something that requires a punch. 🤷🏾‍♂️

No versatility needed.

Originally posted by carver9
And Superman is no Surfer, lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Surfer isn't as fast as Superman.

Originally posted by carver9
Surfer is far more versatile than Superman. CIS on, Surfer should stomp, right?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
But Carver, didn't you remind us that

None of those statements have anything to do with power. All I said there is that with CIS, Surfer murders Superman and with it off, its more of a fight. Don't know what else you got from those posts.

Originally posted by carver9
None of those statements have anything to do with power. All I said there is that with CIS, Surfer murders Superman and with it off, its more of a fight. Don't know what else you got from those posts.

Originally posted by carver9
Can't be since Classic Strange, Surfer, and Namor couldn't break free from the same trap Hulk was able to. It just shows that Hulk is FAR more powerful. That's what it shows.

How does your logic work?

I make a trap out of titanium. Doesn't matter how strong you are, you can't break out of it. People have to use their lock picking skills to break out.

You make a trap out of rope. Some guys can't break out of it, but one guy can.

Am I not the better trap maker, by actually making something that is impossible to break out of by pure strength? It doesn't necessarily mean that the guy who broke out of YOUR trap can suddenly....break titanium. Or that the guy who broke out of YOUR trap is the strongest of all time.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So, what is the reasons for you to say that Surfer murders Superman/can put a fight with Superman. Since you seem to concede that Superman is faster than Surfer

Because speed makes it more of a fight. CIS is writing these characters completely out of characters, basically debating powerset. If we are debating powerset, and I think Superman is faster, it makes the fight much more interesting. That still doesn't take away from the fact that if Superman was strong enough, he would've broken those chains, but he didn't.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How does your logic work?

I make a trap out of titanium. Doesn't matter how strong you are, you can't break out of it. People have to use their lock picking skills to break out.

You make a trap out of rope. Some guys can't break out of it, but one guy can.

Am I not the better trap maker, by actually making something that is impossible to break out of by pure strength? It doesn't necessarily mean that the guy who broke out of YOUR trap can suddenly....break titanium. Or that the guy who broke out of YOUR trap is the strongest of all time.

What it makes you better at is reaching. That's what it makes you a master at.

Also, Superboy broke the chain...

https://ibb.co/4mKDdp8

Originally posted by carver9
Because speed makes it more of a fight. CIS is writing these characters completely out of characters, basically debating powerset. If we are debating powerset, and I think Superman is faster, it makes the fight much more interesting. That still doesn't take away from the fact that if Superman was strong enough, he would've broken those chains, but he didn't.

Originally posted by carver9
What it makes you better at is reaching. That's what it makes you a master at.

So you have nothing to debate with. Fair enough. I guess you know my logic is sound.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yeah, so I'm asking you why Surfer murders Superman? What advantage does he have here?

It's kind off topic. Surfer holds every advantage except strength and speed. We are talking about a character that can do anything.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you have nothing to debate with. Fair enough. I guess you know my logic is sound.

That you're reaching and Superboy broke the chains.

Originally posted by carver9
That you're reaching and Superboy broke the chains.

So did Superman though? Casually with one hand, whilst Superboy used the same TTK he has.

And what about my post is reaching, break it down. I make a trap that makes it impossible for super strength to break. You don't. Am I not a better trap maker than you??

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So did Superman though? Casually with one hand, whilst Superboy used the same TTK he has.

And what about my post is reaching, break it down. I make a trap that makes it impossible for super strength to break. You don't. Am I not a better trap maker than you??

So Superboy being able to CASUALLY break the chains while we have Classic Strange, Surfer, and Namor being unable to break out of something that Hulk can, makes Luthor tech>the tech that was holding Hulk? Yep, you're trolling. Do you think Superboy>>>Surfer, Classic Strange and Namor?

Originally posted by carver9
So Superboy being able to CASUALLY break the chains while we have Classic Strange, Surfer, and Namor being unable to break out of something that Hulk can, makes Luthor tech>the tech that was holding Hulk? Yep, you're trolling. Do you think Superboy>>>Surfer, Classic Strange and Namor?

You do realise it wasn't just the chains, right, that Luthor designed to hold the prisoners , right?! Oh lord, I think you don't realise this lmao.

Maybe you need to read the comic again.

And Superboy broke it with ease. 😊

Unless you think Superboy is more powerful than Surfer, this debate is over with.

Originally posted by carver9
And Superboy broke it with ease. 😊

Unless you think Superboy is more powerful than Surfer, this debate is over with.

Have you read the comic yet?

I am beginning to think that you glossed over it, and missed some important details as per usual as to why Superboy broke them with ease....

Originally posted by carver9
Also, Superboy broke the chain...

https://ibb.co/4mKDdp8

Superman broke the chains that surrounds the Chained, with his bare hands, when Superman wasn't chained by them
https://ibb.co/nLSHm6m
https://ibb.co/Pz06wwB
https://ibb.co/23ZXCsH
https://ibb.co/6J6QXCJ

However, it's only when Superman was chained, he couldn't break from at that time, Mercy also states the chains are using the prisoner's own powers against them only after Superman was chained
https://ibb.co/bmqdmQy
https://ibb.co/pdK6N5J
https://ibb.co/yqJjMXc

Originally posted by carver9
It's kind off topic. Surfer holds every advantage except strength and speed. We are talking about a character that can do anything.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Have you read the comic yet?

I am beginning to think that you glossed over it, and missed some important details as per usual as to why Superboy broke them with ease....

And based on the issues so far that have been released. I think it's unlikely Superboy's breaking chains is equal to Superman's here

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
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We literally have the statement that Mercy says Lex designed that machine and those chains to use someone's powers against them.
https://ibb.co/vLbPMBJ

And based on the issues so far that have been released. I think it's unlikely Superboy's breaking chains is equal to Superman's here

I can give you this, but there's not a single shed of evidence supporting the chains being > what was holding Hulk. Especially since we actually have other characters to scale off of.