Originally posted by DarkSaint85
she can be drawn to need rebreathing apparatus because the writers/artists don't need to give af about her abilities and/or character, because it's not canon.
You think they care about her in the main continuity...?
She's a third wheel to the Batman/Superman love story, gets retconned more often than others (though not as much as Hawkman), DC almost made her a rape victim of Bueno Excellente, too.
Non-canon stories treat her better, all things considered 😂
Originally posted by ShadowFyreAll comic book talk is open to discussion here. Canon or non-canon, doesn't matter -- it's all free game.
I get it just fine it still happening in a comic and it's hilarious. So once again unless we only discuss Canon comics in here it really doesn't matter. They're getting gang raped by the monster verse Superman died he is still dead.Is also hilarious that even in non Canon comics, every time Superman gets a feat everyone wanks the shit out of it whether it's Cannon or not.
Why does it bother you so much? understand that it's still great. It's like on this website all the Superman fans are allowed to talk all the shit they want and wank everything but everyone else has to only talk about Canon.
A real hero came and put that cuck Clark in his place.
It's just shit talking it's just fun
The only 'issue' would be if someone tried applying a character's non-canon showings to their canon counterpart.
Oh yeah I'm not saying non-canon stuff shouldn't be discussed (as if I have a say lol).
I'm just saying asking why things are different, or about (potential) discrepancies with non-canon comics is a fool's errand, really. It being non-canon gives the writers/artists freer rein to do their own interpretations, which introduces a whole slew of new differences.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
New differences?She needed the breathing apparatus underwater quite often in comics canonical to the main continuity. Regardless of the era.
Diana is just a female Thor, let's face it.
that's a compliment not an insult
thor is on the top of pyramid as far as marvel earth is concerned. unlike those dirty mutants
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
New differences?She needed the breathing apparatus underwater quite often in comics canonical to the main continuity. Regardless of the era.
Diana is just a female Thor, let's face it.
O was referring to other new differences, like Godzilla's breath suddenly having K nite type radiation.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85yeah - ie, "Hey what's with this continuity error!" is a stupid thing to say about something that's out of mainstream continuity.
Oh yeah I'm not saying non-canon stuff shouldn't be discussed (as if I have a say lol).I'm just saying asking why things are different, or about (potential) discrepancies with non-canon comics is a fool's errand, really. It being non-canon gives the writers/artists freer rein to do their own interpretations, which introduces a whole slew of new differences.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Superman:Lost 10 is too complicated for my smooth brain to comprehend.
After the first issue, I figured he was gonna be fighting aliens , laying waste to universal conquerors but instead he was talking to himself and chasing dolphins.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Not the end of the fight and the next page suggests she wasn't knocked out at all.
The Hulk's cousin fights a bloated, tipsy, blind street-leveller. And gets KOed.https://i.postimg.cc/HrSwb3hd/08-2.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/KKwtHjbW/09.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/GBHkKYWY/10.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/R6tw5mVZ/15-1.jpgI note the lamppost barely shows any damage.
Originally posted by DiesldudeConclusion appeared to be rushed, so it's no shock that many people (including me) were initially confused with how this storyline resolved itself. I had to re-read prior comics to get it myself. Get ready for a TL;DR.
No idea what they did, Clark helped a younger version get back home to Lois within days but he goes to be with the alien chick pregnant with his clone? What happened to the older version of him? Was he put in his spaceship /casket?
What a boring uneventful story.After the first issue, I figured he was gonna be fighting aliens , laying waste to universal conquerors but instead he was talking to himself and chasing dolphins.
As I understand it, this comic operates on the basis that messing with your own timeline does not necessarily create an alternate timeline, aka, Gruenwald's Law. In this storyline, Superman ultimately creates his own bootstrap paradox to get himself out of his predicament.
Superman gets lost in space for twenty years. I'll call him "Lost Superman". His first shot to get home was when he immediately encounters the alien Contrectatio who, despite being able to get him back to Earth, end up kinda just haphazardly jettisoning him. Lost Superman ends up jettisoned onto "Victor's world" where he befriends a local resident, Szhemi, aka "Jimmy", and a newbie GL Hope. GL Hope's got no idea what the GL Corps are and her GL ring is disconnected from the GL Corps.
Granted, the politicians of Victor's world hate Lost Superman's interference and plot to get rid of him. Years later, Szhemi eventually locates a temporal rift, Anomaly A612, that might be able to get Lost Superman home. GL Hope immediately murders Szhemi before he can tell Lost Superman because she doesn't want to lose Lost Superman. The politicians of Victor's world eventually conspire/offer Lost Superman an Ark to let him return to Earth... mostly because they hate his interference.
Lost Superman doesn't want to leave the people of Victor's world to the politicians. And he refuses the Ark for another six years despite the local star going red giant supernova so if he stays, he's just going to become powerless. Eventually GL Hope's deception/murder is revealed and Lost Superman realizes that Victor's planet is doomed unless he uses the Ark to travel through Anomaly A612 and brings back help. It's been twenty years at this point he's been lost.
Within Anomaly A612, he encounters an old man "Gatekeeper Superman" who has been circling the Anomaly A612 wormhole and is stuck in a time-loop. Gatekeeper Superman apparently never made it back to Earth. That's because you have to travel through Anomaly A612 with precise timing to get to where/when you want to go. During the time-loops, Gatekeeper Superman delays earlier versions of himself from entering the wormhole in an attempt to have those earlier versions of himself get the precise entry timing right so that he can return to Earth.
Lost Superman travels through the Anomaly A612 wormhole and three days later, is rescued by Adam Strange who returns him to Earth. Lost Superman goes through his whole depression/emotional withdrawal stage having already spent twenty years of his life lost in space which is what is mostly portrayed by the entire series.
Eventually, a pregnant GL Hope comes to Earth having followed the telemetry from the Ark before it was ripped apart by Anomaly A612. Her GL ring further recorded the way back also. Since GL rings "defy time and space", they aren't subject to the relativistic limitations Superman was. So she and the Justice League can enter hyperspace and go back to save Victor's planet before it's destroyed by the local star's imminent red giant supernova.
The Justice League goes with GL Hope to save Victor's planet. Lois convinces Lost Superman to go as well because he's been a ghost the entire time. Lost Superman promises that he'll come back to her.
Then Clark shows up in the kitchen and Lois is all wtf? Clark acts like nothing has happened and that right after the initial JL mission that got him stranded in the first place, he made it back after only a few days. This is a younger Superman BUT still within the canon timeline.
Turns out Lost Superman asked GL Hope to essentially time-travel to when his younger self first encountered the Contrectatio, so that instead of being jettisoned to Victor's planet, he was jettisoned onto Earth. Three days by younger Superman's own reckoning -- without twenty years of trauma -- but still actually many months since then on Earth since Lois has been dealing with Lost Superman's trauma for months now.
Lost Superman and GL Hope go on to locate Gatekeeper Superman's body (he died apparently) within Anomaly A612 and sent Gatekeeper Superman's body off in a pod with a hopeful message for anybody who cares to know his story. Lost Superman stays within Anomaly A612 to fulfill the role of Gatekeeper Superman.
And on the final page of the series, it's revealed that GL Hope isn't pregnant with Lost Superman's clone via hair-strand genetic retrieval but Szhemi's clone. That was part of her repentance for murdering Szhemi. It just seemed like it was Lost Superman's clone/kid for drama's sake.
TL;DR I think Superman: Lost rates an 8/10.
Could have been 9/10 if Carlo Pagulayan would've been able to pencil the entire series. The guest pencillers were good but their style clashed with Carlo's. But I understand Carlo was going through personal issues, so guest pencillers had to come in.
I also suspect that was why the final issue seemed to condense 2-3 issues worth of storyline because, well... it just couldn't get done otherwise.
^ My "synopsis" ignores the secondary/tertiary/quaternary??? storylines & plotlines that were intricately interwoven throughout Superman: Lost that reinforced the main themes of the series.
I only focused on what KMC would scrutinize in terms of feats... which still required a rather exhaustive timeline given that it's unclear how space/time mechanics were working out until the end.
I think the point of Superman: Lost is what Superman would do if he seemed to lose 99% of everything in his life but for a sliver of 1% hope of regaining it, yet reaching for that sliver of 1% hope would endanger the 99% of what remained afterwards that he could not ignore in all good conscience.
It's an impossible choice for anybody. But what would Superman do? Well... here it is in one form or another.
8/10.
Originally posted by ODG
Not the end of the fight and the next page suggests she wasn't knocked out at all.
Is the forum terminology a flash KO?
Plus she's possessed, anyway.
