Comic Book Questions & Discussion

So just Marvel and DC talk as usual.

No one interested in what Kirkman's been up to? His Energon Universe has been really good so far, been waiting with anticipation on Duke, Cobra Commander, Transformers, and Void Rivals.

It all has the Kirkman spin on it, Major Bludd and Jetfire and Bumblebee already got killed off, literally anyone can die at any time.

And the shared universe is shared from the start, none of the slow burn self contained arcs. Duke's first outing was barely surviving Starscream murdering his comrades and parachuting away in time, he becomes obsessed with finding out what's happening with the robots, Cobra Commander has a comatose Megatron as his personal sidearm, and the two main character aliens in Void Rivals keep encountering different Season 3 Transformers characters (The Void Rivals are probably safe from being killed off for now, that one is Kirkman's personal story while others write the rest. VERY good writers, he got the guy who did Murder Falcon and Extremity on Transformers)

Btw I ended up reading through Scalped.

Should I be worried that I was cheering on Catcher when he went after those corrupt Tribal leaders?

Who Al has broken nth metal in dc?

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Who Al has broken nth metal in dc?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
If you mean who has broken Nth Metal in DC. Then Lobo breaks some part of Deahstroke's armor(which was made from Nth Metal) in N52
https://ibb.co/yfykhD2
https://ibb.co/w0rj4F3
https://ibb.co/d2KFzrb

Doesn't look like he damaged any part of the armor, only the mask.

Adam Strange ripped Onimar Synn's large Nth metal body apart with Zeta Rays in different directions.

Originally posted by cdtm
So just Marvel and DC talk as usual.

Originally posted by ODG
It's technically DC but read the recent Vertigo runs of Constantine if you're tired of the spandex comics that Marvel/DC usually put out.

Big time.

Read Scalped.on a recommendation, it wasn't really my cup of tea but enjoyed it. Felt like Chief Red Crow and especially Dash got a raw deal, but than I usually root for the anti-heroes and believe both are flawed yet honestly trying to do the right thing, in an ocean of scum and villainy.

Another thing I've been into lately is the work of Daniel Warren Johnson, who did Wonder Woman Dead Earth. His Murder Falcon was great, Extemity is very good, I'm enjoying his run of Transformers (Part of Kirkman's Energon Universe line) and intend to check into his Do a Powerbomb.
I'll check your recommendation.

And if you like Kirkman's work at all, maybe give Void Rivals a try. It follows two spacer people, a warrior and an ace pilot, both scavenging for their respective empires, end up needing to work together to survive and discover their war is a cover hiding a secret both of their leaders in unison want kept from the public. Of course there's also sexual tension, almost a typical anime B plot you'd see from Ranma 1/2 or something.

It also has them randomly running across Season 3 Transformer cartoon stuff, just as neat ways to flesh out that this is a shared universe, most you wouldn't recognize unless you were a G1 nerd nor do you need to really know of.

Kirkman has struck me as phucking over his artist collaborator, e.g., Walking Dead.

So I am definitely not checking out his comics, let alone alone his TV inspired series.

Having said that, that controversy came to light waaaay back in the early seasons of Walking Dead. So if he's since made right by his co-creators, I will definitely give his comics a try. Let me know.

Originally posted by cdtm
Doesn't look like he damaged any part of the armor, only the mask.

Adam Strange ripped Onimar Synn's large Nth metal body apart with Zeta Rays in different directions.

Sometimes. Not always, body armor is more common. The fact is doesn't really look metal and the fact it's damaged suggest there's no nth metal in the hood here.

Originally posted by ODG
Kirkman has struck me as phucking over his artist collaborator, e.g., Walking Dead.

So I am definitely not checking out his comics, let alone alone his TV inspired series.

Having said that, that controversy came to light waaaay back in the early seasons of Walking Dead. So if he's since made right by his co-creators, I will definitely give his comics a try. Let me know.

Crabtree?

Yeah that's still an ongoing lawsuit.

MAYYYBW it's exactly as Crabtree says and Kirkman is an ******* who lied and screwed him over. Otoh it's kind of strange to not get stuff on paper and just trust someone in a business venture, lets be honest contracts exisf for a reason.

It's also possible Crabtree didn't care before the IP took off and now he wants a piece of something he worked on yet never had faith enough in to press for those guarantees, in which case yeah it sucks, but that's business.

Either way there's plenty of work from Daniel Warren Johnson that isn't under his umbrella, at the least I'd recommend you read his Murder Falcon and Extremity. Wouldn't mind hearing your take if you do. 😀

Originally posted by cdtm
Sometimes. Not always, body armor is more common. The fact is doesn't really look metal and the fact it's damaged suggest there's no nth metal in the hood here.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Where do you think these pieces of metal come from?
https://ibb.co/pfzQxtm

Could be a composite. Might have some metal in it, might be some form of plastic.

Hawkman's Nth metal is a full helmet isn't it?

Originally posted by cdtm
Could be a composite. Might have some metal in it, might be some form of plastic.

Hawkman's Nth metal is a full helmet isn't it?

You may as well saying Lobo doesn't know what he was talking about next

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Or a more simple answer, it could be Nth metal, as the comic states.
We've moved from armor doesn't include to the helmet/mask to it doesn't look like metal to might be a composite(which the comic doesn't suggest)

You may as well saying Lobo doesn't know what he was talking about next

Not how it works. It's on you to prove whether Lobo is talking body armor, of full body armor.

From his statement and the fact that Deathstroke has worn body armors and either gone maskless or worn a different hood material in the past (The same as Batman and most caped heroes), it's likely the hood is not Nth metal, not any kind of metal at all given how how elastic it looks.

Originally posted by cdtm
Not how it works. It's on you to prove whether Lobo is talking body armor, of full body armor.

From his statement and the fact that Deathstroke has worn body armors and either gone maskless or worn a different hood material in the past (The same as Batman and most caped heroes), it's likely the hood is not Nth metal, not any kind of metal at all given how how elastic it looks.

We know that armor includes helmet/mask. As shown before

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
You think an armor doesn't include the helmet/mask part?
https://ibb.co/VDMtpS4

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Where do you think these pieces of metal come from?
https://ibb.co/pfzQxtm

However, *you* are the one who tries to say the armor doesn't include mask/helmet. I.E, the burden of proof should be one your side to prove.

@qwertyuiop1998

Did you read Batman/Superman: Worlds Finest yet? Supposedly Doom-Mite is uber enough to scare all the Imps and destroy the Fifth Dimension. Haven't read it yet, can't find it

Originally posted by Senor Cage
@qwertyuiop1998

Did you read Batman/Superman: Worlds Finest yet? Supposedly Doom-Mite is uber enough to scare all the Imps and destroy the Fifth Dimension. Haven't read it yet, can't find it

And in 28's solicitation mentions

Something is destroying the fifth dimension—and if an army of evil imps can obliterate all the joy and life from an entire reality, what chance do Superman and Batman stand against it? A multitude of DC guest stars—and their fifth-dimensional counterparts—join the World’s Finest duo in a last-ditch attempt to save Earth from the ultimate darkness!

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yeah, in the annual, Justice League's imps(aside from Mxy and Bat-Mite) are killed without much effort by Doom-Mite
https://ibb.co/pJDRB6L
https://ibb.co/4fKr4pM
https://ibb.co/cTLgnKP
https://ibb.co/gMTpM76
https://ibb.co/tmntKxL

And in 28's solicitation mentions

https://www.gamesradar.com/dc-comics-june-2024-solicitations-covers/

Ouch.

From the looks of this, might be worse than the original Superman/Batman run. The alternative Justice League thing where Joker and Darkseid are in on Mxy's trial or whatever that was, reading it was like pulling teeth.

Pass.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Umm, I think it's actually you're the one who needs to prove that Lobo is only talking about body armor.

We know that armor includes helmet/mask. As shown before

We know the fact that when Lobo punches DS, the pieces of metal come from it

However, *you* are the one who tries to say the armor doesn't include mask/helmet. I.E, the burden of proof should be one your side to prove.

Actually it doesn't. The mask is not armor, it's a mask. The only damage was to the mask, not the armor.

Balls in your court, personally I say he never damaged Nth metal by that scan. The bits he took off are from the helmet/mask, likely a composite cloth and plastic with some type of flexible yet sturdy lining.