Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I guess it's a poor showing for Sif? She should have been able to spot him without any assistance, but she's not Heimdall, just his replacement.

👆 remember when Heimdall blinked and missed Gladiator lol.

Had they not had vibranium, they would have had nothing to stop him, even though he was 'only' at near lightspeed, AND for some reason, did not have the reaction speeds to match his travel speed (I know its a trope with speedsters who don't have the benefit of the speed force).

https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Mighty-Thor-2016/Issue-15?id=100646

Heimdall's eyes were specifically said to be omnipotent and all seeing and that you could NOT sneak up on him. This is in the context of Gladiator being fast enough to cross entire galaxies in the blink of an eye, that's millions of times FTL.

Gladiator timed his bull-rush perfectly for when Heimdall blinked. Heimdall still saw him coming, but not fast enough to warn Asgard.

In context, that's pretty wild because it implies Heimdall reaction time is WAY FTL. He saw Gladiator, and had enough time to say "No".

So is Gladiator's as he was able to pinpoint Asgard from across galaxies, and time his bullrush while Asgard is moving through space.

Again, the issue was not stopping him. Thor, or Scarlet Witch could take him down. The issue was finding him and stopping him in time. The context was very clear, he was a human sized bullet at the speed of light coming from any point in the night sky. That's why there was a timer and the challenge was clearly focused on finding him.

Interesting. A new Challengers of the Unknown series

"The terror of the Darkseid shock wave has cascaded across the DC Universe…tearing open the very fabric of time and space itself! Lo and behold, only one band of super-scientists have the right stuff to challenge the fate of the universe: the Challengers of the Unknown. Ace Morgan, June Robbins, Prof Haley, Red Ryan, and Rocky Davis, adventurers "living on borrowed time," run day-to-day operations for the Justice League's Watchtower base in orbit above Earth, collaborating with Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, and the rest of the League to seal the rifts that threaten the galaxy. But a mysterious foe from the Challengers' past lurks in the shadows, and its connection to the Darkseid wave will put not only the Challengers, but all of the DC Universe on borrowed time. The debut issue features a main cover by Mike Deodato Jr., with variant covers by series artist Izaakse and Romulo Fajardo Jr., Taurin Clarke, and Danny Earls, plus a foil variant cover by Gleb Melnikov and a character-design variant cover by Dan Mora."

Doomsday breaks out of Hell.

Avengers would really be ****ed if it was Prime coming lol

Originally posted by abhilegend
Doomsday breaks out of Hell.

Originally posted by Juntai
Avengers would really be ****ed if it was Prime coming lol

Basically. They wouldn't even have vibranium to help them out.

Originally posted by Juntai
not sure if he’s out of hell yet here, I think that was the wall of souls.

Originally posted by Smurph
I haven't read the comic but tbf the scan doesn't say that's Hyperion's top speed, it just says he's perfectly capable of it and it would let him build up enough kinetic energy to crack the world in half (comic book mumbo jumbo math, lol)

Also the latest issue of the Darth Vader series really, really goes out of its way to show us the gap in power between Vader and Palpatine(even when Vader was hyper-amped), and why he was such a subservient lapdog again during RotJ. Glad Pak tidied that up. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
True, but Hype was pissed and his sole intent was lashing out at earth, cuz feefee's... So I feel like if he could have flown faster, he would have flown faster -- why wouldn't he, given the scenario? /shrug

I'm not saying that fits all the details of scenario. I haven't read the comic. But the scan seemed to try hard to evoke the idea of an IMP without using the words IMP. And Superman's IMP required the same specific speed.

Pretty contrived reason to stretch Hyperion's trip into five hours, so maybe it makes no sense. On the other hand comic book plots are pretty much always extremely contrived.

^ But at least the Superman scene makes it a point to note that he is capable of traveling FTL, but he was just choosing not to in that particular instance.

No such distinctions were made with this Hype showing, though. It was basically: "Hyperion is fast enough to approach the speed of light, so he'll be here in 5.5 hours."

The time dilation/reaction thing was weird as well, to me.

Edit: but yes. Hyperion seemed pretty pissed, the writing made it seem to me that that was his top pissed off speed.

Originally posted by Galan007
Also the latest issue of the Darth Vader series really, really goes out of its way to show us the gap in power between Vader and Palpatine(even when Vader was hyper-amped), and why he was such a subservient lapdog again during RotJ. Glad Pak tidied that up. 👆

Though I think you can argue that Palpatine seems to absorb the power-tubes after Vader loses control of said powers.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The time dilation/reaction thing was weird as well, to me.

Edit: but yes. Hyperion seemed pretty pissed, the writing made it seem to me that that was his top pissed off speed.

I would argue New 52 Supes is still the most powerful version of Superman, by far. Supes has been in similar situations as N52, and hasn't done nearly as good.

Originally posted by Juntai
which was slow as dirt when we remember that New52 Superman was able to nearly match instant teleport from Pluto to Earth, and he was just a piece of Superman's power. lol.

Or when Flash, full of pasta, is able to run nearly 360 times the speed of light, casually:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
one of his more insane feats - casually running 200 miles in 3 microseconds:

200 miles in 3 microseconds is nearly 360 times the speed of light. And he did it casually, without breaking a sweat, whilst full of pasta, lmao.

Not even breaking a sweat.

Gladiator ft is better. Far better.

Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator ft is better. Far better.

Well, yeah - Flash is literally not even trying here. And is full of dinner.

It's the equivalent of a walk for him, when he's literally not trying to sweat, full of food.

When he's actually trying, in the same issue, he is going so fast he is time travelling and crossing dimensions:

Gladiator crosses galaxies in the blink of an eye. Cool. Wally crosses dimensions and timelines, lol.

Edit: and this was just for a lollipop, lmao. Gladiator did all that in a serious battle for the future of his empire - imagine how fast a REALLY serious Flash would be.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ But at least the Superman scene makes it a point to note that he is capable of traveling FTL, but he was just choosing not to in that particular instance.

No such distinctions were made with this Hype showing, though. It was basically: "Hyperion is fast enough to approach the speed of light, so he'll be here in 5.5 hours."

In the previous issue he announces to Earth that he will be approaching at "a significant portion of the speed of light on a collision course"

In this issue Captain Marvel remarks on the kinetic energy he'll build up by doing so, with that kind of runway. Later there's some comic book science about time dilation saying that the time will pass by momentarily for him. Which answers my question about the convoluted plot, in a way.

So it's pretty clear that Hype chose his speed specifically because it would turn him into a planet-destroying bullet. The whole thing seems like a pretty clear reference to Superman and the shadow moon /shrug

I'm not a Hyperion fan so it doesn't matter to me if this was supposed to portray his cap speed, but that's not what I got from the issue.