Originally posted by ODG
You’re in no position to lecture me on advancing this discussion. All you’re doing is refusing for the 10th+ time to explain how your retarded theory works for a single character, i.e., Wonder Woman.N1gga, plz.
Originally posted by ODG
^ B1tch and whine all you want. All I ever asked for was a 2-3 sentence brief summary of Wonder Woman's career during WW2 and the Justice Society in current continuity.
^ Deny what? That you refuse to provide a 2-3 sentence brief summary of Wonder Woman's career during WW2 and the Justice Society in current continuity?
God forbid you illustrate how your theory that all pre-Crisis history applies to current DC continuity would work when it comes to a single character, let alone all DC characters. Phucking Christ in a basket.
Originally posted by ODG
^ Deny what? That you refuse to provide a 2-3 sentence brief summary of Wonder Woman's career during WW2 and the Justice Society in current continuity?God forbid you illustrate how your theory that all pre-Crisis history applies to current DC characters would work when it comes to a single character. Plucking Christ in a basket.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Or to put it simply here: if you can't give explicit proofs about your claims, then what you said here is nothing more than headcanon
And "pre-crisis history can't be canon because if it's, the comic characters would be very mess despite the DC says" doesn't sound really convincing when most comic character' histories are also mess
Originally posted by ODG
Your problem, not mine. I’ve got nothing to argue against, after all. Just someone who insists on vaguely witless platitudes but won’t actually expound on how it’s actually work out for a si for DC character, let alone all of them.
^ You can ignore all the on-panel retcons published just this past year that I’ve needled you with but we’re simply dealing with your claim.
And I haven’t even demanded proof that post dates mine. I’ve simply asked that if you truly believe all pre-Crisis history applies to current characters, then expand on it:
Provide a 2-3 sentence brief summary of Wonder Woman's career during WW2 and the Justice Society in current continuity?
Whoa. Deja vu!
Originally posted by ODG
^ You can ignore all the on-panel retcons published just this past year that I’ve needled you with but we’re simply dealing with your claim.And I haven’t even demanded proof that post dates mine. I’ve simply asked that if you truly believe all pre-Crisis history applies to current characters, then expand on it:
Provide a 2-3 sentence brief summary of Wonder Woman's career during WW2 and the Justice Society in current continuity?
Whoa. Deja vu!
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
2) Retcons=//= invalidating entire timeline. Multple posters give you many examples to explain this concept to you.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I remember when Donald Blake was shown to have power as a creation of Odin, thus contradicting all of those early tales where he was a wimpy limpy human. Rage was not pleased.Does this retcon mean all of Thor's early stories are moot or invalid? No.
Then they showed that Odin DOESN'T need to sleep to pass his power on to Thor. Another retcon. Again, this doesn't invalidate decades of comics. Rage and Sin....well, raged.
Then Mjolnir melted in the Sun. Thor was burning up etc. No invalidation. That's just a few contradictions - but it doesn't take over ENTIRE storyli, just patches over a couple of things here and there. Thor was still cast down to Earth to learn humility - but he did so in a vessel that had a portion of the Odinforce in it, he still has all of his striking feats with Mjolnir - but Mjolnir was sentient and has the Mother storm in it etc.
That's.....what's happening here with DC, no? It's all canon, EXCEPT for that patches that aren't?
Bottom line (let's not be coy and demure here), for abhi and qwerty, until PreCrisis feats are EXPLICITLY retconned ("he never actually sneezed a planet!"😉 it's canon.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yeah, I think retcons or writers simply ignore certain elements to tell a story is common in comics. For both Marvel and DC, like your example, and my and abhi Superman origins example, contradictions happen all this time.
I don't remember there are rules that say just because there are contradictions, then the entire era history is invalidated or something
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Pretty much. It's a patchwork of a story where certain newly told elements retcon/outright contradict old stories. 5% is new.Doesn't mean the other 95% never happened.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So what? We have seen even post Crisis retellings of these first meeting, do we discard post Crisis continuity after each retcon? For example Superman birthright and Secret Origin make Cyborg Superman's entire origin (replicating Superman's DNA from his birthing matrix) apocryphal, so that means Cyborg Superman doesn't exists anymore?Why are you so stupid?
Originally posted by ODG
^ I didn’t request pointless word salad.If you cannot provide a 2-3 sentence brief summary of Wonder Woman's career during WW2 and the Justice Society in current continuity, then just admit it.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yes, I have.
But I can understand why you so upset. Because even now you can't provide even a single explicit proof to support your claims. You only can provide your headcanon and use slippery slope fallacy to cover that fact.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998I mean, you could just say how Wonder Woman's career during WW2 and the Justice Society works in current continuity.
LOL, what can I say.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998Apparently so. Somehow that’s not a damning indictment of your position.
All can be said has already been said
Originally posted by ODG
I mean, you could just say how Wonder Woman's career during WW2 and the Justice Society works in current continuity. Apparently so. Somehow that’s not a damning indictment of your position.
Hyperion is 'only' capable of 'near' lightspeed. This is still sufficient to crack the world in half, and is sufficiently a threat that they need the last Omega mutant, boosted by Cerebro, plus the top mystics and the Guardian of the Bifrost to track him. Then they need his kryptonite, so to speak (vibranium):
I like how he can generate radio waves, though.