Originally posted by abhilegend
So? Lots of low meta tier do that.
Slott has also written Thing unable to beat a non serious Hercules who was just joking around.Thing is below class 100 tier, it's evident that Hulk was amped against Thor and Avengers.
Was Ben serious enough to willingly suffer massive punishment just in the name of KOing him? If not, then irrelvant example. Furthermore, there is no shame in losing to Herc -- the guy is up there with Thor. None of this changes Slott's opinion of him though.
Strength classes mean jack all outside the handbooks, where they are used for measuring strength of characters in relation to one another.
Hulk being amped is nothing but a load of bull. But I'm in no mood to get into that again.
Also, I have no idea what you're trying to do here. Okay, so Ben failed to beat Herc but then beat Devil Hulk after a long, brutal match and getting his arm shattered in 10 places for his efforts. So what? We all know how Herc fared against this Hulk, even with Jane Thor's assistance. This was way before the so called amp, so there is no excuse. Herc performed a planetary (or close) feat just an issue after his encounter with Hulk, so its not like he wasnt given his due.
Wait a minute:
Gladiator beat down GALACTUS!
But isn't the cosmic forces in flux? And so LT can lose to Master Order and Lord Chaos?
That makes the feat highly suspect then. Perhaps Aunt May could defeat Galactus, since the cosmic hierarchy is IN FLUX.
If I was a Marvel writer, I would totally make Aunt May the new devourer.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Was Ben serious enough to willingly suffer massive punishment just in the name of KOing him? If not, then irrelvant example. Furthermore, there is no shame in losing to Herc -- the guy is up there with Thor. None of this changes Slott's opinion of him though.Strength classes mean jack all outside the handbooks, where they are used for measuring strength of characters in relation to one another.
Hulk being amped is nothing but a load of bull. But I'm in no mood to get into that again.
Also, I have no idea what you're trying to do here. Okay, so Ben failed to beat Herc but then beat Devil Hulk after a long, brutal match and getting his arm shattered in 10 places for his efforts. So what? We all know how Herc fared against this Hulk, even with Jane Thor's assistance. This was way before the so called amp, so there is no excuse. Herc performed a planetary (or close) feat just an issue after his encounter with Hulk, so its not like he wasnt given his due.
Because Thing isn't herald level and never will be.
Originally posted by Wonder Man
Namorita. Is she marvel comics next Rogue?
Her power level depends on being properly hydrated.
She might be less than (modern) Ms. Marvel at her "standard" levels or superior to her (when she gets some water pouring on her).
Then again, you could argue that Classic Rogue was more powerful than modern Carol.
ABHI, lets discuss this. You mentioned Superman defeating Eclipso with his heat vision as shown here...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/42101508/SmartSelect_20190811-025806_Chrome.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/42101509/SmartSelect_20190811-025838_Chrome.jpg.html
But your failed to mention this part...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/42101507/SmartSelect_20190811-025728_Chrome.jpg.html
Why?