Originally posted by -Pr-Given what we know about the character, a well-written Apocalypse could be written to give Superman trouble, yes.
Based on their histories and their feats though, there isn't really any contest. The fight would last about as long as Superman allows it to.
Originally posted by -Pr-👆
I just got around to reading Batman Superman #1. Yeah, it hearkens back to Loeb almost to the point of parody at times, but it's still a really good read, and given my disdain for Bendis, this is definitely a book I'll be keeping an eye on (as much as I dislike the Batman Who Laughs stuff).Some really nice art too (you can tell the artist really liked All-Star Superman).
The premise/plot is fun, but the art is definitely a huge selling point for me.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Thoughts:
Batman/Superman - it's basically Loeb [the situation is almost like Public Enemies - his first arc, too, with both of them against a bunch of heroes]. And that's not a slight, since I enjoyed his run on the team-up.
JLD - I like everything, but Wonder Woman. It's weird, but she seems out of place, even though you might think otherwise beforehand as a concept. She seems like Brie Larson in Avengers, if that sums up my feelings. Forced to be there.
JL - I liked it, even though we just got over an arc that had a 'dystopian' part. Good springboard.
Superman - absolute dogshit, and I'm not talking about the legion part. Even the 'fight' with Rogol was crap, and Bendis is like a 3 year old slamming his action figures into eachother screaming like an idiot. I hope sales continue to drop until he's out.
Action Comics - lol. Nothing happens.
House of X - very good. The feeling that mutants/X-side are the villains is interesting and I'm enjoying the description part quite a lot.Everything else was....meh. Flash somehow finds a way to be boring, with Black Flash in chase. WW is still bad [but the writer was recently fired]. etc.
I'm not gonna comment on batman/superman until I see the fight between superman and shazam who laughs, shazam who laughs looks badass. I miss the batman who laughs we saw in metal. his cool design is all he has going for him now.
JLD is by far one of the best book out there right now, the powergap between heroes and villains are so big though, They need huge amps/outside helps everytime. They only defeated hecate and lords of order. they still got witchmarked circe, eclipso, the otherkind ahead of them lol.
I'm sorta disinterested in JL until the next big fight break out. Last arc was amazing because it gave superman some of the best moments, it also further out established DC cosmology. I just hope it will explain it further. I wanna see big cosmic battles between the godlike beings in the top of the ceiling. And I can see DC is trying to make Luthor the new doctor doom. but Luthor is one character I find extremely boring . and I really hope perpetua is not defeated in a lame way. as far as year of the villains part. most of these villains' stories will not interest me.
I gave up on Bendis Superman like couple months ago, the art is great, the fighting scenes are cool. But just so little plot every issue. I do give credit that he portrays a decently powerful superman (how superman supposed to be), but other than that his writing is shit-tier like always. still better than Action Comics though. last 15 months of action comics is just terrible art and like you said nothing at all. No cool villains no big fights no nothing. Last time I enjoyed Bendis works were during the marvel dark reign era and siege.
The art in The Flash is amazing, that artist should be drawing big events from now on. but I cannot wait for them to get rid of all the new forces, it's gotten so stupid.
Honestly most of the DC books these months are shit, I enjoyed JL, JLD, I look forward to Doomsday Clock next week.
Leviathan is already complete crap. DCeased is one of the worst thing I've ever read. But I do have hope now that JSA and LOSH are back. Morrison's Green Lantern is about to be epic too. Oh also who wrote Justice League Odyssey. I thought heroes in crisis was the worst thing ever, but this one takes the cake.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil........Albert...Even we take tweet words counted, Did you know how ridiculous is "amped 6x"part, It will mean Superman punches koed a being that creating Multiverse and Hypertime, Which meas ordinary Superman has 1/6 powers of a being that can create multiverse and hypertime...........And not mention if WF created multiverse and hypertime that makes him has infinite power at least. But we know infinity one-sixth is still infinity........
Snyder confirms Superman was amped 6x. @cdtm
Originally posted by LordGodAnd if we think more deeply.....WF can create multiverse and hypertime( Infinite universes) which means WF has infinite power at least....And we know infinity 1/6 is still infinity......So basically how many times(finite number of course) superman been amped is doesn't matter
So it only took a 6x amp for Superman to powerup enough to oneshot a multiversal(+++) being? Unbelievable.Do these pretentious haters even understand the implications of that?
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilA knowledge of basic mathematics, Infinity has the trait of: The entirety is equal to the parts of sum. For example: Infinity divided by 2 is still infinity
...What? a single sun alone restored him completely back, and made him even stronger than he normally was.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilWe already knew the sixth dimension isn't Forger's native realm [that was explained in the story]. That doesn't change the fact that he was still multiversal there.
I don't know what your getting at but ok@saint yea but snyder also confirmed Wf hasn't been at full strength and 6th dimensional isn't his realm/dimension
Then Superman oneshots him with only a 6x amp. Amazing.
Originally posted by LordGod
We already knew the sixth dimension isn't Forger's native realm [that was explained in the story]. That doesn't change the fact that he was still multiversal there.Then Superman oneshots him with only a 6x amp. Amazing.
World forger was weakened, he's not as powerful in the 6th dimension. THAT'S my point i'm trying to make
Ok?
That doesn't change the fact that Forger was STILL multiversal(++) IN the sixth dimension, yet Superman dropped him with only a 6x amp.
THAT'S the point you aren't comprehending.
I know interviews and such aren't usable here, but that Tweet makes Superman look infinitely better than he already did. Thx for posting it! 😄
Originally posted by LordGod
Ok?That doesn't change the fact that Forger was STILL multiversal(++) IN the sixth dimension, yet Superman dropped him with only a 6x amp.
THAT'S the point you aren't comprehending.
I know interviews and such aren't usable here, but that Tweet makes Superman look infinitely better than he already did. Thx for posting it! 😄
destructive capacity doesn't equate to durability. What was WF durability during that point? I don't wanna go into his power levels because it's a meh situation with him but what I wanted to point out he was weakened and not at full power when Superman dropped him. basically
Originally posted by Bentley
Even Pr has limits to his bad taste given he doesn't like TBWL
1: Get ****ed, Frenchie. We still haven't forgiven you for Henry and Platini.
2. Honestly though, even the original concept screams tryhard fanfic. I'm hoping this run can do something better with it.
Originally posted by CatL18
I agree.
But, They ignore any context and their feats.
They truly believe Apo without well-written plot can compete with Superman.
People convince themselves lies are the truth all the time. It usually comes from a place of insecurity.
Originally posted by Galan007
If Apoc starts getting consistently written like he was in X-Men TAS, then he might be able to contend with Superman on at least some level.Until that happens, those guys are just being intentional idiots. 👆
Originally posted by Galan007
👆The premise/plot is fun, but the art is definitely a huge selling point for me.
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Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Snyder confirms Superman was amped 6x. @cdtm
...And?