Originally posted by carver9
He only dove in 6 suns? Do you have proof of that? Scan please.
Forum rule:
There have been too many of these so called interviews which go against what's shown on panel. Especially when there is no dialogue to refute what's happening on panel. Most writers are clear with the intentions of the plot and story arc.
Fine. What's shown ON PANEL? How many suns does Superman fly into ON PANEL?
SIX.
What does the interview say?
SIX.
We go by what's shown on panel. I don't make things up like say that Batman injects Venom behind the scenes, or carries a small shard of platinum Kryptonite in his belt to amp his stats, in order to explain his showings - we go by what is shown.
And what is shown are SIX suns. The writer confirms it is SIX suns. Forum rules mean that his interview is inadmissible if it contradicts what is on panel. But on panel we see SIX booms.
Anything more, is you injecting head canon and making stuff up. Why don't I say that AFTER the countless suns you say he sundips in, I then go, 'well, maybe he then sundips in RED suns, to bring himself down?'
Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't understand how/why the super jump feat is even a point of conflict between people. Supes did the thing with the book of infinite pages years ago after all. The super jump is infinitely LESS impressive than lifting the book so I don't know why people who dislike Supes are constantly arguing against it while Supes's fans act like it's some kind of next level feat. It's a cool feat, it's an impressive feat, but ultimately it doesn't change a damn thing...
^lol its impressive. I don't disagree, I'm trying to figure out how the gravity works there... it's total mass doesn't just have to be high, it also has to be very dense. Like he's escaped suns easily enough, but they're not very dense and it's not like he goes to their cores where the gravity is highest. It may be akin to stellar mass but more compact.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil^lol its impressive. I don't disagree, I'm trying to figure out how the gravity works there... it's total mass doesn't just have to be high, it also has to be very dense. Like he's escaped suns easily enough, but they're not very dense and it's not like he goes to their cores where the gravity is highest. It may be akin to stellar mass but more compact.
It was a moon sized planet, with very very strong gravitate, like due to its mass.
surprisingly, I think it was probably a lot more massive than Jupiter, but it'd make sense if it was more compact.
Two things affect surface gravity. One, mass, of course. But two, size, and the physically smaller the better. Two planets the same mass, one twice as big across as the other, the smaller one will have much higher surface gravity.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85There's also the fact that right after he flew through those suns, Superman immediately started heading toward World Forger at peak speed.
Forum rule:Fine. What's shown ON PANEL? How many suns does Superman fly into ON PANEL?
SIX.
Full page:
https://i.imgur.com/cgHt3lB.jpg
He very clearly didn't sit there flying through an infinite amount of suns for hours on end, like carver is trying to say. If he would have spent any additional time amping himself beyond what we were shown on panel, WF would've had enough time to strike the Crisis Anvil and wipe out the existing multiverse. Not sure why people are willfully 'forgetting' the context of that entire scene..?
...Obviously that's why Snyder also just credited him with a 6x amp, but that's neither here nor there.
Originally posted by Galan007
There's also the fact that right after he flew through those suns, Superman immediately started heading toward World Forger at peak speed.Full page:
https://i.imgur.com/cgHt3lB.jpgHe very clearly didn't sit there flying through an infinite amount of suns for hours on end, like carver is trying to say. If he would have spent any additional time amping himself beyond what we were shown on panel, WF would've had enough time to strike the Crisis Anvil and wipe out the existing multiverse. Not sure why people are willfully 'forgetting' the context of that entire scene..?
...Obviously that's why Snyder also just credited him with a 6x amp, but that's neither here nor there.
Originally posted by Galan007
There's also the fact that right after he flew through those suns, Superman immediately started heading toward World Forger at peak speed.Full page:
https://i.imgur.com/cgHt3lB.jpgHe very clearly didn't sit there flying through an infinite amount of suns for hours on end, like carver is trying to say. If he would have spent any additional time amping himself beyond what we were shown on panel, WF would've had enough time to strike the Crisis Anvil and wipe out the existing multiverse. Not sure why people are willfully 'forgetting' the context of that entire scene..?
...Obviously that's why Snyder also just credited him with a 6x amp, but that's neither here nor there.
So what's you're saying is...
Superman feeling "better then normal* is hyperbole, and he was much, much weaker from his pitiful exposure to mini suns when he clocked WF.
I hear you, as loud and clear as everyone else will, especially Carver and Quan. 👆
Originally posted by Galan007
There's also the fact that right after he flew through those suns, Superman immediately started heading toward World Forger at peak speed.Full page:
https://i.imgur.com/cgHt3lB.jpgHe very clearly didn't sit there flying through an infinite amount of suns for hours on end, like carver is trying to say. If he would have spent any additional time amping himself beyond what we were shown on panel, WF would've had enough time to strike the Crisis Anvil and wipe out the existing multiverse. Not sure why people are willfully 'forgetting' the context of that entire scene..?
...Obviously that's why Snyder also just credited him with a 6x amp, but that's neither here nor there.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilSo it’s agreed that ‘6x sundip’ is meaningless, then?
it's not the number of stars that matters , his power or amp depends upon the amount of radiation absorbed by his each cell...
He can absorb that " 6x" amount of radiation from a single star based on how much time he spent near it ...
Cool.
I just finished Hickman's run on Avengers, and I have a couple of questions if anyone wants to enlighten me:
-At the end of Avengers v5 #21, the Builders' Alephs all decide to self-destruct after Captain Universe smacks the shit out of one of their leader-bug-guys. Was the start of Infinity #5 them just destroying all the Alephs before they could wipe it all out? Or were they beaten some other way?
In Secret Wars:
-Am I right in understanding that Doom was brought back in time or outside of time by Molecule Man and shown that the Beyonders were using multiple Molecule Men as bombs to destroy the multiverse, and the early detonation of one Molecule Man is what caused the incursions to start?
-Doom in secret built an army of his own Black Swans (destroying Earths to slow the death of existence) and Molecule Men, unleashing the latter on the Beyonders when the time was right in a kind of suicide bomb attack?
-Did he then use the energy from that destruction, filtered through Molecule Man, to create his new Earth?
-T'Challa was able use the IG during his fight with Doom because they'd used parts of the 616 to make his world, right?
Namor gets amped when he drinks water.
Q: did he get amped just from his first cup of water or from drinking all six cups?
A: all six cups.
The six refers to the number of suns, not the size of the amp.
Writer tweets shouldn’t matter, but even if they did, those tweets only say that Supes was sun dipped from flying through six suns, they don’t qualify the size of the amp.
