Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by -Pr-
I just finished Hickman's run on Avengers, and I have a couple of questions if anyone wants to enlighten me:

-At the end of Avengers v5 #21, the Builders' Alephs all decide to self-destruct after Captain Universe smacks the shit out of one of their leader-bug-guys. Was the start of Infinity #5 them just destroying all the Alephs before they could wipe it all out? Or were they beaten some other way?

In Secret Wars:

-Am I right in understanding that Doom was brought back in time or outside of time by Molecule Man and shown that the Beyonders were using multiple Molecule Men as bombs to destroy the multiverse, and the early detonation of one Molecule Man is what caused the incursions to start?
-Doom in secret built an army of his own Black Swans (destroying Earths to slow the death of existence) and Molecule Men, unleashing the latter on the Beyonders when the time was right in a kind of suicide bomb attack?
-Did he then use the energy from that destruction, filtered through Molecule Man, to create his new Earth?
-T'Challa was able use the IG during his fight with Doom because they'd used parts of the 616 to make his world, right?

As far as T'Challa with the IG goes, it could have just been "Battleworld's" own Infinity Gauntlet, since every universe in the multiverse has one and Battleworld is technically a universe, if the only one left.

Speaking of hickman’s Avengers what the hell was the point of validator?

Originally posted by NemeBro
As far as T'Challa with the IG goes, it could have just been "Battleworld's" own Infinity Gauntlet, since every universe in the multiverse has one and Battleworld is technically a universe, if the only one left.

I had wondered that, though I had my doubts because I wasn't sure Strange would be able to harness Battleworld's Infinity Stones without Doom's notice.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Speaking of hickman’s Avengers what the hell was the point of validator?

**** if I know.

As you know, In recent DC cosmology, Everything DC has puplished is canon.
But, how should i express it to other people who don't know DC cosmology yet?
Should i use the concept of Hypertime?

Originally posted by CatL18
As you know, In recent DC cosmology, Everything DC has puplished is canon.

That's highly debatable

Originally posted by MrMind
That's highly debatable

At this point in time, I think it's largely safe to say that Post-Crisis is back to being the primary canon, and anything in the New 52 that isn't contradicted by the Post-Crisis stuff is canon too.

By the end of Doomsday Clock though, there's a very good chance that Pre-Crisis could be canon too, but that'll take some explaining given how COIE dealt with distinctly separate versions of characters.

Originally posted by -Pr-
At this point in time, I think it's largely safe to say that Post-Crisis is back to being the primary canon, and anything in the New 52 that isn't contradicted by the Post-Crisis stuff is canon too.

By the end of Doomsday Clock though, there's a very good chance that Pre-Crisis could be canon too, but that'll take some explaining given how COIE dealt with distinctly separate versions of characters.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

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Hey, it's not like I'm a fan of the idea. It just looks like that's what Johns is doing. I legit dislike a LOT of the pre-crisis DC stuff.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't understand how/why the super jump feat is even a point of conflict between people. Supes did the thing with the book of infinite pages years ago after all. The super jump is infinitely LESS impressive than lifting the book so I don't know why people who dislike Supes are constantly arguing against it while Supes's fans act like it's some kind of next level feat. It's a cool feat, it's an impressive feat, but ultimately it doesn't change a damn thing...

But Silver Surfer still beats him 9/10, right, right?

Superman destroying a planet near death by just jumping doesn't changes a thing? Who are you trying to fool man?

Originally posted by abhilegend
But even the infinite book didn't change anything for Superman, did it? You could argue anything less than infinity is meaningless for Superman then because Superman is infinitely strong.

But Silver Surfer still beats him 9/10, right, right?

Superman destroying a planet near death by just jumping doesn't changes a thing? Who are you trying to fool man?

Originally posted by Smurph
Namor gets amped when he drinks water.

Q: did he get amped just from his first cup of water or from drinking all six cups?

A: all six cups.

The six refers to the number of suns, not the size of the amp.

Writer tweets shouldn’t matter, but even if they did, those tweets only say that Supes was sun dipped from flying through six suns, they don’t qualify the size of the amp.

And then you read the comic, which shows the cups are actually shot glasses, and then wonder what his amp would be when he drank from his normal swimming pool sized mug (which has 'World's Best Crawdad' on the side).

Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't understand how/why the super jump feat is even a point of conflict between people. Supes did the thing with the book of infinite pages years ago after all. The super jump is infinitely LESS impressive than lifting the book so I don't know why people who dislike Supes are constantly arguing against it while Supes's fans act like it's some kind of next level feat. It's a cool feat, it's an impressive feat, but ultimately it doesn't change a damn thing...

Originally posted by darthgoober
He's pulling that Base. And what what were your exact words minutes ago...

Besides, did you not read the first panel of the second scan...
"And as I discovered some time ago, when I LIFT an object while I'm flying, there's something other than strength at work."

A one time showing that far exceeds anything else we've seen from him. Thus, just as much SvFL as Hulk's sphere's feat and Herc and Thor repairing a rip in space by punching each other's hands from opposite sides.

Matched by Hulk keeping matter/Anti matter apart.

Originally posted by darthgoober
😂 I hope you're kidding. Hulk's best feats of pure strength easily put him on par with Supes's because Supes's best are invalid due to being flight aided. There's the book thing that I still mean to check out, but at best a one time showing of "lifting infinity" with help through pure physical strength would be an instance of SvFL at best and would still be matched by things like Hulk keeping the matter and anti-matter sphere separated(which was portrayed as being impossible in the story).

I'm surprised he didn't say "Its not a strength feat because see those Byrne era scans I posted".

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Some quotes by great Darthgoober about the infinite page feat which is now norm for Superman now apparently.

Matched by Hulk keeping matter/Anti matter apart.

I'm surprised he didn't say "Its not a strength feat because see those Byrne era scans I posted".

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he was trying to downplay the feat. saw right through him too.

Just read Batman Superman #1.

I wonder if the nth metal will weaken Shazam, whilst at the same time Clark will hold back, thus preserving the status quo.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Some quotes by great Darthgoober about the infinite page feat which is now norm for Superman now apparently.

Matched by Hulk keeping matter/Anti matter apart.

I'm surprised he didn't say "Its not a strength feat because see those Byrne era scans I posted".

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He should have just left it at the “shared feat” or “Morrison’s Superman” excuse

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Just read Batman Superman #1.

I wonder if the nth metal will weaken Shazam, whilst at the same time Clark will hold back, thus preserving the status quo.

Interesting take, what can superman and batman do if all their friends turned evil, usually everyone is worried about what would happen if superman and batman were to go bad including them in this issue.

So now you have all of their friends go rogue and they have to figure out who and how to stop them.

Regarding the fight with captain marvel. I think it will be a short one or a quick win by superman. He'll punch Billy and Billy will fly off laughing and throwing around a few threats of what is to come.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I remember reading through Darthgoobers posts and how he has downplaying the feat. Rather pathetic at the time

He should have just left it at the “shared feat” or “Morrison’s Superman” excuse

Exactly, he was downplaying that feat, so we know exactly what he's trying to do by saying that this is a lesser feat.

How good a fighter is KGBeast? Could he beat say DD?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
How good a fighter is KGBeast? Could he beat say DD?