Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Started by AlbertoJohnAvil1,926 pages

I don't care what happened on the ownage thread, i'm talking specifically about what happened on THIS thread lmao. Carver brought up Sentry punching a hole in space time and then you mention how it wasnt impressive and use a horrible comparison from a lantern to compare to it. You need to go outside and stop being obsessed with people that debunk you on this fiction stuff on a daily basis kid

such a troll

carver been spazzing out about sentry's feat from ownage thread to this thread,

his stupidity has fluidity, it flows like poop water from one thread to another, if you haven't notice since it might be your first day, the ownage thread and this thread has same discussions most of the time

due to his insecurity he just has to bring up superman (like enzeru, you and many others), I try to steer the conversation away from superman by finish it with another dc character, what choice do I have, carver brought it up, I just finish it.

Originally posted by LordGod
I think the Bob half definitely has a portion of the power, because Surfer took on the characteristics of Sentry after they merged-

Long hair, S symbol, cape, et cetera. If it was just Bob I doubt he would have transformed like that.

No. Bob was powerless which is why he was stuck on that rock

Originally posted by Sin I AM

I don't think....

Imo from what I read from the book. It looks like all the power left Bob when he went to the negative zone and went to void. So Bob is essentially powerless human and the Void is out there masquerading as Sentry with ALL the power. Void is half of him in the same sense that Banner is half of Hulk. He's not talking power wise its more metaphorical.

Originally posted by Sin I AM

No. Bob was powerless which is why he was stuck on that rock

In THE SENTRY VOL 2 #3, Sentry goes to the Negative Zone to look for the Void. But since the Sentry gets weaker and weaker in the Negative Zone, while the Void grows stronger and stronger (due to the way these two personas interact with negative energy in Bobs mind), which is why he had recruited the Hulk to help him out.

So the Bob you see in ANNIHILATION SCOURGE - SILVER SURFER #1 is most likely still Sentry, just weakened back to Bob after spending too much time in the Negative Zone.
He was also talking about how he was dying. In the third issue of his second volume he also had a very tough time dealing with some basic goons in the end and he needed the Hulk to help him out. Sentry was visibly weakened and at the brink of collapsing. That's also where the Void appeared and broke the Hulk.

So Bob right now is still Sentry. Just massively weakened by the Negative Zone. While the Void might very well be empowered.

(All of that is of course if the writers and editors remembered that and factored it into their current story.)

Which they .... probably didn't, tbf

Originally posted by Enzeru
In THE SENTRY VOL 2 #3, Sentry goes to the Negative Zone to look for the Void. But since the Sentry gets weaker and weaker in the Negative Zone, while the Void grows stronger and stronger (due to the way these two personas interact with negative energy in Bobs mind), which is why he had recruited the Hulk to help him out.

So the Bob you see in ANNIHILATION SCOURGE - SILVER SURFER #1 is most likely still Sentry, just weakened back to Bob after spending too much time in the Negative Zone.
He was also talking about how he was dying. In the third issue of his second volume he also had a very tough time dealing with some basic goons in the end and he needed the Hulk to help him out. Sentry was visibly weakened and at the brink of collapsing. That's also where the Void appeared and broke the Hulk.

So Bob right now is still Sentry. Just massively weakened by the Negative Zone. While the Void might very well be empowered.

(All of that is of course if the writers and editors remembered that and factored it into their current story.)

I'm that's not what was shown.

Originally posted by Enzeru
In THE SENTRY VOL 2 #3, Sentry goes to the Negative Zone to look for the Void. But since the Sentry gets weaker and weaker in the Negative Zone, while the Void grows stronger and stronger (due to the way these two personas interact with negative energy in Bobs mind), which is why he had recruited the Hulk to help him out.

So the Bob you see in ANNIHILATION SCOURGE - SILVER SURFER #1 is most likely still Sentry, just weakened back to Bob after spending too much time in the Negative Zone.
He was also talking about how he was dying. In the third issue of his second volume he also had a very tough time dealing with some basic goons in the end and he needed the Hulk to help him out. Sentry was visibly weakened and at the brink of collapsing. That's also where the Void appeared and broke the Hulk.

So Bob right now is still Sentry. Just massively weakened by the Negative Zone. While the Void might very well be empowered.

(All of that is of course if the writers and editors remembered that and factored it into their current story.)

I forgot the negative zone weakens Sentry. You are correct about that.

Originally posted by Galan007
Supergirl:

It is once again reiterated that Superman always holds back...

This arc has literally had every issue put an emphasis on how much Superman holds back and he'd win every fight if he wouldn't. On one hand, it makes perfect sense of course [Billy is a kid and Supergirl is his family], but on the other hand, the foreshadowing should lead to something. Somewhere, Loeb is nodding in approval.

At some point Superman is going to realize he can't keep holding back against them because they're hurting innocents.

and when that happens it should be something to see. droolio

There's some kind of weird, twisted irony that, after Cyclops got so much shit for it, a new X-Force has been put together by the likes of Xavier, Beast and Jean.

I fully expect Captain America and the President of the US to give a medal to Jean for her new X-Force

Originally posted by Bentley
I fully expect Captain America and the President of the US to give a medal to Jean for her new X-Force

**** it, why not.

Originally posted by -Pr-
There's some kind of weird, twisted irony that, after Cyclops got so much shit for it, a new X-Force has been put together by the likes of Xavier, Beast and Jean.

Yeah, it's kinda like how when Scott lost control to the phoenix force and killed Xavier everyone hated him. Meanwhile, Jean kills a whole planet when she loses control and that's A-ok according all the other X-Men and so on.

Cyclops had a whole movement supporting him though. 'Cyclops was right' and all that.

No one wore ' Jean was right' t shirts.

Originally posted by emporerpants
Yeah, it's kinda like how when Scott lost control to the phoenix force and killed Xavier everyone hated him. Meanwhile, Jean kills a whole planet when she loses control and that's A-ok according all the other X-Men and so on.

Yeah. Cyclops's willingness to use the Phoenix in the first place was horribly under-explained too.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cyclops had a whole movement supporting him though. 'Cyclops was right' and all that.

No one wore ' Jean was right' t shirts.

Ugh, I hate that you reminded me of that.

Was rereading Doomsday Clock and had a few questions mostly about Manhattans characterization-

During the original Watchmen series he didn't really try to alter events at all because everything is predetermined. So why would he alter SO many things in this event? Saving JorEl. Saving Comedian. Altering DCs past to change the future to something he preferred. Stealing a decade from the timestream. Killing Metron, Owlman, and Pandora. And the list goes on.

I don't understand why he's had this change of heart?

Also- is it assumed that the Watchmen universe is part of the canon DC multiverse? Perhaps one of the "Unknown Universes"? Or is it assumed to be in a different multiverse entirely? I ask only because the changed he's making to the mainstream DC universe would also be affecting the Watchmen universe if they are in the same multiverse........

😕

Because they aren't concerned with characterization. They opted out for a more feat centric story

Yeah. It's Geoff Johns. As talented as he is, the story tends to come before other considerations.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No one wore ' Jean was right' t shirts.

I'm sure they had plenty of those Jean shirts.

It's just that they were all covered in semen, so you couldn't wear them in public.

Originally posted by LordGod
Was rereading Doomsday Clock and had a few questions mostly about Manhattans characterization-

During the original Watchmen series he didn't really try to alter events at all because everything is predetermined. So why would he alter SO many things in this event? Saving JorEl. Saving Comedian. Altering DCs past to change the future to something he preferred. Stealing a decade from the timestream. Killing Metron, Owlman, and Pandora. And the list goes on.

I don't understand why he's had this change of heart?

Because of his fascination with Superman.

That is legitimately *the* sole reason why Manhattan is f*cking around with continuity.