So Banner has a "magic nano cloud" now that follows him around and disables all tech?
And it even affects Doom tech?
How long has this been a thing? Is Banner an out and out Mary Sue now compared to the Richards and Dooms?
So Banner has a "magic nano cloud" now that follows him around and disables all tech?
And it even affects Doom tech?
How long has this been a thing? Is Banner an out and out Mary Sue now compared to the Richards and Dooms?
Hulkhas always been at least as intelligent as Stark. He just usually can't show it because the Hulk smashes everything and he has to stay on the move. During the few times when he was separated from the Hulk, we've seen what kind of amazing tech he can build when he has the time and a lab to work in.
Should read Indestructible Hulk if you want to see more displays of Banner's intelligence.
Originally posted by cdtm
https://m.imgur.com/3iSlYLkSo Banner has a "magic nano cloud" now that follows him around and disables all tech?
And it even affects Doom tech?
How long has this been a thing? Is Banner an out and out Mary Sue now compared to the Richards and Dooms?
No. It was an I'll conceived attempt but ultimately failed
Originally posted by cdtm
**** Vsbattles.They peg Wolverine at 4b, which is "solar system" power wise, or about Thor level.
And Danny Rand is only "mountain level" at 7A.
Guess they didn't read the stories where he beat down dimension razers, or punched through Null or Bres.
Mountain level my ass.
Elektra is tier 9A.
Iron Fist is tier 8C, without the Iron Fist.
Here is what those rankings mean:
VS BATTLES WIKI
Tiering System
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Introduction
The following is a comprehensive overview of the hierarchical system which this wiki utilizes in order to properly categorize and index fictional characters and entities based on the scale of their feats, and the varying scopes which they can affect or create/destroy, although it should always be kept in mind that, while Destructive Capacity and Area of Effect are some of the most primary ways to qualify for a certain tier, they are not the only ones. For instance, harming a character with a certain level of Durability also allows another character to qualify for the corresponding tier.Furthermore, it should be noted that characters from a higher tier are not necessarily invincible to entities of lower tiers, as certain powers and abilities can potentially bypass the difference in strength entirely, allowing the latter to contend with, or overpower such characters. See this page for more information.
It is also important to know that the difference between the lowest and highest bounds of a given tier are extremely variable, and can be absolutely massive in scale. Hence, being far stronger than a character that belongs to a certain tier does not necessarily qualify one for a higher rating.
Explanation
As of now, we do not consider higher-dimensional constructs as being necessarily infinitely greater than lower-dimensional equivalents until further context as to their nature and size is provided by a work of fiction. Hence, they must either be placed at Unknown or simply reasonably scale relative to their best feats, provided they are not outliers or something of the sort, of course.However, higher-dimensionality is indeed a valid way to jump unto higher tiers if the higher-dimensional being / object in question is either treated as being infinitely and/or qualitatively above lower-dimensional ones specifically because of their dimensionality, or is provably infinite, in which case it is equated to the size of the entire n-dimensional real coordinate space in which it resides. See this page for more information.
Furthermore, the higher bounds of the system make use of infinite cardinal numbers as a metric to accurately quantify and categorize meta-hierarchies beyond even infinitely-layered ones, and as such, it is advisable to read this explanation as well.
The Scale
Tier 11: Infinitesimal
No joule value available. This tier pertains to characters who can create/destroy or affect the whole structure of a lower-dimensional universe, or lower layers/levels of reality. Please note that existing as a drawing or being made of data / information is not to be ranked at this tier, as such beings are still 3-dimensional, but in an incredibly small scale.This tier is broken into the following sub-tiers:
11-C: Low Hypoverse level
Characters who demonstrate power equivalent to destroying/creating a 0-D level construct of any size, or 3 level of infinity/degrees of reality/fiction transcendence or similar beneath a 3-D reality. This tier also include characters who are vastly below this level, and all characters beneath this tier’s requirements in any significant way will still be at this tier.11-B: Hypoverse level
Characters who demonstrate power equivalent to destroying/creating existentially inferior 1-D level construct of any size, or 2 levels of infinity/degrees of reality/fiction transcendence or similar beneath a 3-D reality.11-A: High Hypoverse level
Characters who demonstrate power equivalent to destroying/creating existentially inferior 2-D level constructs of any size, or 1 level of infinity/degree of reality/fiction transcendence or similar beneath a 3-D reality.Tier 10: Human
10-C: Below Average Human level
Characters capable of exerting force comparable to humans who are below the average norm in terms of strength, such as small children or infirm people, as well smaller animals such as cats and dogs.10-B: Human level
Characters capable of exerting force comparable to that of regular humans, such as teenagers or unathletic adults.10-A: Athlete level
Characters capable of exerting force comparable to that of more athletic humans, such as trained fighters or generally physically fit individuals.Tier 9: Superhuman
9-C: Street level
Characters who stand at the threshold of human strength and capabilities, represented by olympic level athletes or rigorously trained martial artists, as well as larger animals.It is important to note that, despite being named "Street level", this tier has nothing to do with actually affecting an entire street, with the name being moreso a reference to street fighters as portrayed in martial arts movies and the like.
9-B Wall level
Characters who can destroy or significantly damage extremely resistant materials such as stone, metal or steel, as well as similarly resistant parts of constructions such as structural boulders and walls.9-A: Small Building level
Characters capable of destroying rooms or entire small constructions such as houses or smaller buildings.Tier 8: Urban
8-C: Building level
Characters who can destroy medium-sized buildings and constructions, such as large factories or large complexes such as supermarkets.High 8-C: Large Building level
Characters who can destroy large buildings such as skycrapers.
Now I'm conflicted. 😈
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Is there a way to convince you to stop talking to yourself?It's disturbing.
If you don't stop, I'll make a cdtm wiki.
Why do you care about vsbattles.fandom.com, anyway? It's not even popular, is it?
I liked the idea of Danny Rand being mountain busting level.
Then I saw Wolverines bio.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
No. It was an I'll conceived attempt but ultimately failed
Never quite got why they needed to make Banner that smart. He should be smart but a top 3 or top 5 mind on Earth? Even if he was just the world's leading expert on Gamma radiation he shouldn't crack the top 5 so why else would he need to know so much other stuff?
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Am I allowed to post Doomsday vs cell in the comic forum thread?
It would bring in a lot of traffic but nope, you can't. One of the best threads on KMC was Frieza vs Thanos (a lot of people made good arguments on why Frieza would beat Thanos brains in) and even with all of the traffic that thread got closed.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You're talking about Frieza from DBS right?
Base Frieza from DBS right?Not namek Frieza right?
Namek Frieza was said to be Universal.
His fts...
Goku kicked him so hard he shook the planet and Frieza didn't even feel it.
Split planet Namek almost in half with 2 fingers.
Tanked the Kamehameha time 20. 20 times more powerful Kamehameha and remember, a non amped kameha was said to be capable of destroying a planet.
Hes faster, FAR FASTER, blasts are more powerful.
I see no reason on why he can't beat Thanos.
Personally, I don't have an issue with DB vs. comic threads. The problem is that they tend to devolve into nothing but completely off-topic clusterf*cks... Even more than most regular threads here do(hard to believe, I know.)
That's why the other mods are against cross-genre threads here, which I understand.
Originally posted by Galan007
Personally, I don't have an issue with DB vs. comic threads. The problem is that they tend to devolve into nothing but completely off-topic clusterf*cks... Even more than most regular threads here do(hard to believe, I know.)That's why the other mods are against cross-genre threads here, which I understand.
Look at the thread I posted. I wouldn't say thats strictly who wins against who. More of a durability question.
Originally posted by BruhMan
Never quite got why they needed to make Banner that smart. He should be smart but a top 3 or top 5 mind on Earth? Even if he was just the world's leading expert on Gamma radiation he shouldn't crack the top 5 so why else would he need to know so much other stuff?
Pak. He really wanked tf out of Hulk. Plot-wise they needed a reason to keep him around when Ross depowered him. So they upped his IQ and gave him a tech edge. He became an inspector gadget-esque type character. It didn't stick though.