Originally posted by Galan007
Yes, it's definitely supposed to be canon to 616.The "Annotations" section at the end of each issue directly references dozens of canon comics, complete with issue numbers.
I always thought it was cool they mentioned Franklin given time mastered his power and eventually able to create multiverses
Originally posted by Sin I AMNot sure what Surfer instance you're referring to(haven't skimmed those issues in a while), but HOTMU is set billions of years in the future of the existing creation.
Wasnt it retconned though, specifically with Surfer making the first planet ?
Originally posted by MrMindMy guess is that he didn't create those multiverses instantaneously, but rather, created them universe by universe(like he did in the wake of Secret Wars.)
I always thought it was cool they mentioned Franklin given time mastered his power and eventually able to create multiverses
Because even at the end of HOTMU, we just saw him begin creating a new universe after assuming the mantle of Galactus:
Thinking about it, Bendis missed a golden opportunity.
The stupid road trip with Jor-El? Remember when Mxy offered Jon to come with, during the merged Supernan thing? Imagine how much fun a Mxy and young Jonathan Kent road trip could have been.
In his own way Mxy actually seems to care about the Super family, so you know he'd look after him.
Would make a lot more sense then Jor-El's change of heart, at least.
So what do you think about a guy losing to a guy, but beating a guy who beat the guy?
Say for example, Luke Cage tanks an Iron Fist, and beats down Danny. Later on, Man Mountain Marco trades shots with Cage, shocks him with an electrical cable, then beats Cage down.
And finally, Danny one shots Marco with a basic palm strike under the chin.
All of this happened. And under the same writer. What can you take away from their relative power levels here?
I mean, you'd think a guy who can tank an Iron Fist would get Marco's fists broken just hitting him.
And if not, there should be no way a normal strike from Danny hurts him, let alone puts him down.
The main point is, do you take the direct fight as representative. Or are there times when a lot of mounting indirect evidence contradicts the main event, and thus power levels?
Originally posted by cdtm
So what do you think about a guy losing to a guy, but beating a guy who beat the guy?Say for example, Luke Cage tanks an Iron Fist, and beats down Danny. Later on, Man Mountain Marco trades shots with Cage, shocks him with an electrical cable, then beats Cage down.
And finally, Danny one shots Marco with a basic palm strike under the chin.
All of this [b]happened
. And under the same writer. What can you take away from their relative power levels here?I mean, you'd think a guy who can tank an Iron Fist would get Marco's fists broken just hitting him.
And if not, there should be no way a normal strike from Danny hurts him, let alone puts him down.
The main point is, do you take the direct fight as representative. Or are there times when a lot of mounting indirect evidence contradicts the main event, and thus power levels? [/B]
Mere plot. Most writers don’t for care such consistency in their work, all they care about is moving the plot forward.
That’s the reason Batman can hit and damage robot dogs, and the Flash for some reason couldn’t, until Batman, a mere human at his highest a mid end street level being had to tell him how and where to attack.
Originally posted by cdtm
So what do you think about a guy losing to a guy, but beating a guy who beat the guy?Say for example, Luke Cage tanks an Iron Fist, and beats down Danny. Later on, Man Mountain Marco trades shots with Cage, shocks him with an electrical cable, then beats Cage down.
And finally, Danny one shots Marco with a basic palm strike under the chin.
All of this [b]happened
. And under the same writer. What can you take away from their relative power levels here?I mean, you'd think a guy who can tank an Iron Fist would get Marco's fists broken just hitting him.
And if not, there should be no way a normal strike from Danny hurts him, let alone puts him down.
The main point is, do you take the direct fight as representative. Or are there times when a lot of mounting indirect evidence contradicts the main event, and thus power levels? [/B]
It just means comic writers are usually shit at power scaling.
Blame terrible western education I guess.
Thing: *bench presses 100 tons*
Hulk: *benches a planet*
Writer: Wow sounds like a good rivalry!
Originally posted by cdtmProbably would have been a pretty wise choice for Jon to go with Mxy in hindsight.
Thinking about it, Bendis missed a golden opportunity.The stupid road trip with Jor-El? Remember when Mxy offered Jon to come with, during the merged Supernan thing? Imagine how much fun a Mxy and young Jonathan Kent road trip could have been.
In his own way Mxy actually seems to care about the Super family, so you know he'd look after him.
Would make a lot more sense then Jor-El's change of heart, at least.
The shit he could have learned, and the powers he could have unlocked...
Originally posted by cdtm
So what do you think about a guy losing to a guy, but beating a guy who beat the guy?Say for example, Luke Cage tanks an Iron Fist, and beats down Danny. Later on, Man Mountain Marco trades shots with Cage, shocks him with an electrical cable, then beats Cage down.
And finally, Danny one shots Marco with a basic palm strike under the chin.
All of this [b]happened
. And under the same writer. What can you take away from their relative power levels here?I mean, you'd think a guy who can tank an Iron Fist would get Marco's fists broken just hitting him.
And if not, there should be no way a normal strike from Danny hurts him, let alone puts him down.
The main point is, do you take the direct fight as representative. Or are there times when a lot of mounting indirect evidence contradicts the main event, and thus power levels? [/B]
Most of them will probably tell you that it comes down to things like differences in training, different skill levels, that kind of stuff. But there's always that inherent inconsistency when writers adapt the characters to the story rather than the other way around.
And the funny thing is, the better writers will actually tell you to put the characters first. Plots change. Characters need to stand the test of time.
Originally posted by Galan007Got it.Thanks.
Yes, it's definitely supposed to be canon to 616.The "Annotations" section at the end of each issue directly references dozens of canon comics, complete with issue numbers.
Adult Franklin Richards is still considered to be from an alternate universe though, right?