Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Not buying it, Pr.

Especially with all the stories that elaborate on Joker's "condition".

But okay. What about the sane criminals, then?

It doesn't have to be a broken spine causing total paralysis --- it can be anything ranging from severed fingers to limbs, blinding, cut out tongue, ruptured eardrums... which would make them much easier to apprehend once they get out of Arkham or Blackgate again --- something which keeps happening.

Big difference between Miller Batman and mainstream.

Year One was Miller, he puts you in a body cast for shooting a cat. He's also the one that killed Joker.. Accidentally.

Mainstream Bats, I don't remember him being so quick to cripple even mooks. Usually he'd swoop from the shadows and put you to sleep with a bat chop or something.

what fight would you guys say that batman has gone all out in? like completely unrestrained and out for the kill?

has that ever happened?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Not buying it, Pr.

Especially with all the stories that elaborate on Joker's "condition".

But okay. What about the sane criminals, then?

It doesn't have to be a broken spine causing total paralysis --- it can be anything ranging from severed fingers to limbs, blinding, cut out tongue, ruptured eardrums... which would make them much easier to apprehend once they get out of Arkham or Blackgate again --- something which keeps happening.

Even if you go by the whole "Joker is super-sane" thing, Batman doesn't know that iirc.

That's... mutilation. Batman is a superhero. Why would he do that? I mean sure, he straddles the line between hero and anti-hero sometimes, but that's going a bit far.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
what fight would you guys say that batman has gone all out in? like completely unrestrained and out for the kill?

has that ever happened?

Without being mind-controlled or influenced etc?

Not many tbh. Trying to strangle the Joker in Hush is one.

ya no mind control or possession.

just bruce going straight up beast mode on a villain.

Originally posted by Galan007

Lol, was thinking about that.

But he used a gun then, that don't count. 😛

Originally posted by -Pr-
Even if you go by the whole "Joker is super-sane" thing, Batman doesn't know that iirc.

That's... mutilation. Batman is a superhero. Why would he do that? I mean sure, he straddles the line between hero and anti-hero sometimes, but that's going a bit far.

Without being mind-controlled or influenced etc?

Not many tbh. Trying to strangle the Joker in Hush is one.

Straight up shooting Darkseid with a bullet he knows would kill.

He should have gone for the head.

He was trying to maim Darkseid, obv 👆

Originally posted by Galan007

Originally posted by -Pr-
Even if you go by the whole "Joker is super-sane" thing, Batman doesn't know that iirc.

He knows that Manhunter with all his alien power could barely make him normal for a moment, so no meds or therapy are ever going to work.

Originally posted by -Pr-
That's... mutilation. Batman is a superhero. Why would he do that? I mean sure, he straddles the line between hero and anti-hero sometimes, but that's going a bit far.

Batman is a dark street type.

He paralysed KGBeast without thinking twice about it.

Why? Because Beast tried (and failed) to assassinate Grayson.

So somehow, that is perfectly okay to do and not crossing the line, at least when Dick is the one getting hurt. But murdered children don't bother Batman.

Not to mention that crushing ribs and kidneys of common goons is his usual modus operandi.

Can you imagine how many innocents died in Gotham (and all over the planet) just because Bruce chose to go easy on his rogues?

Originally posted by Galan007

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
ya no mind control or possession.

just bruce going straight up beast mode on a villain.

There was that new 52 storyline (death of the family I think) where joker and Batman were fighting to the death in a collapsing batcave.

Joker had a healing factor and Batman wasn’t holding back (even biting jokers ear off).

Who gave Golgo permission to start BatManhattan Who Laughs versus threads? 😂

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t670033.html

🤣

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He knows that Manhunter with all his alien power could barely make him normal for a moment, so no meds or therapy are ever going to work.

Batman is a dark street type.

He paralysed KGBeast without thinking twice about it.

Why? Because Beast tried (and failed) to assassinate Grayson.

So somehow, that is perfectly okay to do and not crossing the line, at least when Dick is the one getting hurt. But murdered children don't bother Batman.

Not to mention that crushing ribs and kidneys of common goons is his usual modus operandi.

Can you imagine how many innocents died in Gotham (and all over the planet) just because Bruce chose to go easy on his rogues?

Since when do we assume Manhunter can be trusted to be an authority on anything? I mean, I joke, but still. It's not like other writers that write the Joker take this shit in to account.

I feel like you're complaining about the built-in hypocrisy all humans have, where they will fight harder to protect/avenge their family than they would anyone else's.

I think there's a wide gulf between "goes easy" and "doesn't cripple/mutilate". If he starts acting like the Punisher, then he stops being the character he's been built up as since the 70s/80s. I mean, you might prefer him that way, but he wouldn't really be Batman anymore, would he?

Are King Thanos events canon?

I see people using events from this series to put Black Bolt on a level that doesn't belong to him.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Since when do we assume Manhunter can be trusted to be an authority on anything? I mean, I joke, but still. It's not like other writers that write the Joker take this shit in to account.

I feel like you're complaining about the built-in hypocrisy all humans have, where they will fight harder to protect/avenge their family than they would anyone else's.

I think there's a wide gulf between "goes easy" and "doesn't cripple/mutilate". If he starts acting like the Punisher, then he stops being the character he's been built up as since the 70s/80s. I mean, you might prefer him that way, but he wouldn't really be Batman anymore, would he?

Exactly.

We have The Batman who Laughs for that.

Originally posted by nortonek
Are King Thanos events canon?

I see people using events from this series to put Black Bolt on a level that doesn't belong to him.

So KT using Black Bolt to destroy a Host of Celestials wouldn't be canon to 616 BB, no.

Originally posted by Galan007
The events that took place in KT's timeline = an alternate future.

So KT using Black Bolt to destroy a Host of Celestials wouldn't be canon to 616 BB, no.

Nor would Thanos shooting Galactus's head off his body.

Or defeating every single cosmic being and skyfather. Somehow.

Hopefully with a serious power up, since standard Thanos managed to beat him and in no way is nearly that strong.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Since when do we assume Manhunter can be trusted to be an authority on anything? I mean, I joke, but still. It's not like other writers that write the Joker take this shit in to account.

I feel like you're complaining about the built-in hypocrisy all humans have, where they will fight harder to protect/avenge their family than they would anyone else's.

I think there's a wide gulf between "goes easy" and "doesn't cripple/mutilate". If he starts acting like the Punisher, then he stops being the character he's been built up as since the 70s/80s. I mean, you might prefer him that way, but he wouldn't really be Batman anymore, would he?

But Batman *can* be brutal and even sadistic.

He's not the Punisher, no, but he's not Superman (as you would love him to be), either.

https://tinyurl.com/y6n4zwhc

Let's be honest --- his major rogues are protected by the so called "writer's armor".

Imprisoning them doesn't work --- not even when Batman himself helped to upgrade Arkham's defenses.

So, doing permanent damage to their bodies is the only solution, since his moral code seems fine with that.