Originally posted by StiltmanFTWBecause Batman is a poorly-written character. 🙂 👆
One Batman question.He doesn't kill, okay. We all get that.
But... why the f*ck Bruce doesn't cripple some of his worst villains? Guys like the Joker?
Would that be breaking his rules, too?
Bullshit --- he's got no qualms about breaking bones or damaging organs when it comes to cannon fodder thugs, who probably could reform, given enough time and the right treatment.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
One Batman question.He doesn't kill, okay. We all get that.
But... why the f*ck Bruce doesn't cripple some of his worst villains? Guys like the Joker?
Would that be breaking his rules, too?
Bullshit --- he's got no qualms about breaking bones or damaging organs when it comes to cannon fodder thugs, who probably could reform, given enough time and the right treatment.
He doesn't even do that half the time.
Remember how he sperged out when Jason Todd broke that drug dealers collarbone.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
But Batman *can* be brutal and even sadistic.He's not the Punisher, no, but he's not Superman (as you would love him to be), either.
Let's be honest --- his major rogues are protected by the so called "writer's armor".
Imprisoning them doesn't work --- not even when Batman himself helped to upgrade Arkham's defenses.
So, doing permanent damage to their bodies is the only solution, since his moral code seems fine with that.
I feel like I agree with half of what you say, but not the other half, so I really don't know how to respond lol
Originally posted by krisblaze
He doesn't even do that half the time.
Remember how he sperged out when Jason Todd broke that drug dealers collarbone.
He did, yes --- but Bruce had his reasons for that.
He explained how they needed him conscious, so he would talk.
You won't get anything out of the guy who was put into a shock and required immediate hospitalization.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Since when do we assume Manhunter can be trusted to be an authority on anything? I mean, I joke, but still. It's not like other writers that write the Joker take this shit in to account.I feel like you're complaining about the built-in hypocrisy all humans have, where they will fight harder to protect/avenge their family than they would anyone else's.
I think there's a wide gulf between "goes easy" and "doesn't cripple/mutilate". If he starts acting like the Punisher, then he stops being the character he's been built up as since the 70s/80s. I mean, you might prefer him that way, but he wouldn't really be Batman anymore, would he?
Flip side is, look at Punisher. Kills and maims all day long.
But crime in NYC isn't any better. So his methods are just as shitty.
Couldn't even prevent 9/11, and made Kingpin and Doom cry.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Flip side is, look at Punisher. Kills and maims all day long.But crime in NYC isn't any better. So his methods are just as shitty.
Couldn't even prevent 9/11, and made Kingpin and Doom cry.
MAX Fury said as much about Castles career, post mortem.
"I wish I can stand up there and tell everyone your life had meaning. But the truth is your work didn't mean a thing. It was all for nothing."
Originally posted by cdtm
MAX Fury said as much about Castles career, post mortem."I wish I can stand up there and tell everyone your life had meaning. But the truth is your work didn't mean a thing. It was all for nothing."
That's the quote I had in my head when posting.....I mean we even have Cosmic Ghost Rider all the way in the future doing the exact same thing, just on a different scale. His methods don't exactly get results, not in comic world.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWCan you imagine how many innocents died in Gotham (and all over the planet) just because Bruce chose to go easy on his rogues?
Eh.. I wouldn’t say that Batman’s a totally consistent character, but this line of criticism tends to ignore that Batman’s only one part of Gotham’s justice system, and he’s very good at his job: catching criminals. The fact that rogues keep escaping and killing more people is first and foremost a failure of Arkham and Blackgate, and the courts.
IMO, if Batman started cutting off fingers and shit, he’d risk losing his ability to work as a quasi-member of the justice system, and the trust of his allies and the people of Gotham. Punisher might be good at execution, but his methods don’t lead to a city lighting up a signal in the sky when they need him.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Flip side is, look at Punisher. Kills and maims all day long.But crime in NYC isn't any better. So his methods are just as shitty.
Couldn't even prevent 9/11, and made Kingpin and Doom cry.
😂
Originally posted by Smurph
Eh.. I wouldn’t say that Batman’s a totally consistent character, but this line of criticism tends to ignore that Batman’s only one part of Gotham’s justice system, and he’s very good at his job: catching criminals. The fact that rogues keep escaping and killing more people is first and foremost a failure of Arkham and Blackgate, and the courts.IMO, if Batman started cutting off fingers and shit, he’d risk losing his ability to work as a quasi-member of the justice system, and the trust of his allies and the people of Gotham. Punisher might be good at execution, but his methods don’t lead to a city lighting up a signal in the sky when they need him.
Pretty much. And there is a bit of an issue with the differences some writers have in how they portray him. Some will have Batman stick to breaking ankles and wrists and still call for medical attention after they're down, while others will have him jab a batarang in their eye and leave them bleeding in the rain.