Originally posted by carver9
Looks like the hammer is coming to him when he is in space. He didn't port with the hammer in his hand.
How did he send it? Did he throw it or did he tell it to go? Pretty simple. If you think he tends to send hammers away by ordering them to do so, good on you. If you think he tends to throw hammers away from him, good on you too. I guess it really depends on what you think he is more apt to do.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
"...sent it flying into the depths of space."How did he send it? Did he throw it or did he tell it to go? Pretty simple. If you think he tends to send hammers away by ordering them to do so, good on you. If you think he tends to throw hammers away from him, good on you too. I guess it really depends on what you think he is more apt to do.
👆 pretty much.
And I guess I just don't have faith in Aaron to write Thor like Thor used to be, that's all.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That he doesn't like to throw hammers?
If you really want to keep the faith with Aaron, and argue that he knows what he's doing with the Thor mythos, fair enough. That he does his research and knows Thor and his history, OK. His portrayal of Thor cannot be questioned, fine.
Personally, I count it as suspect, enough to say actually, there is reasonable doubt to question him throwing/commanding it. I mean, in the very same issue we have Aaron writing that Thor always relied and still kinda relies , on Mjolnir telling him what to do. Retconning his entire history of Thor being the proud warrior, with thousands of years of experience, to a guy who follows what the Mother Storm tells him to do. And is lost without her.
Does that sound like Aaron knowing the character and history of Thor?
That's why, in a battle board setting, I'd count it as a solid hammer feat, even a Screwbeard/Odin feat, not as a solid Thor strength feat.
lol that doesn't make sense. proud warrior? mother storm telling him? you're going off into different tangents and making it more complicated than it has to be.
to me he throws hammers. if you think Aaron is such a departure from what the character does and is known to do, that's your prerogative. to you, he's more likely to tell his hammer to fly away from him. that's fine. although to be honest for the life of me, I can't see how one would even come to that conclusion. like if that was one's first inclination(thor telling his hammer to go instead of throwing it away) in regards to that feat, I find that highly abnormal.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
"...sent it flying into the depths of space."How did he send it? Did he throw it or did he tell it to go? Pretty simple. If you think he tends to send hammers away by ordering them to do so, good on you. If you think he tends to throw hammers away from him, good on you too. I guess it really depends on what you think he is more apt to do.
The same writer, in the very same issue had Thor unable to break through one of the cells of the very same ship.
But somehow Thor grew do much stronger that he threw the entire ship along with his hammer.
Aaron showed Thor was not strong enough to break through the ship, why don't you show us where he threw the hammer hard enough to drag the whole ship? Heck, he needed to throw an exploding hammer to destroy one bridge just six issues ago.
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Aaron has repeatedly shown Thor is not planetary level strong. His run is littered with such references.
facepalm
getting caught and knowing he was going to be put through the ringer was the plan. you know, to find out where they were keeping angela and find out how malekith was moving forces b/n realms...
and later he proceeded to destroy their army.
i mean did we read the same book? wtf? i can't even... For real man I can't take u seriously rite now.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
lol that doesn't make sense. proud warrior? mother storm telling him? you're going off into different tangents and making it more complicated than it has to be.to me he throws hammers. if you think Aaron is such a departure from what the character does and is known to do, that's your prerogative. to you, he's more likely to tell his hammer to fly away from him. that's fine. although to be honest for the life of me, I can't see how one would even come to that conclusion. like if that was one's first inclination(thor telling his hammer to go instead of throwing it away) in regards to that feat, I find that highly abnormal.
It's not different tangents. It's all the same argument.
Aaron doesn't care about what Thor may have done in the past, or his character in the past. This is almost a new character.
And if this is the only proof we have (after I've pointed out that the crucial proof of him spinning his hammer, is missing panels), then it's shaky. Any other writer, I'd be sold on. Morrison, for example. But Aaron? Nah.
You can't pick and choose. 'Oh, Aaron knows what he's doing here, he has a fine handle on the character!!' 'WTF, Aaron is a hack who knows nothing about Thor!'
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's not different tangents. It's all the same argument.Aaron doesn't care about what Thor may have done in the past, or his character in the past. This is almost a new character.
And if this is the only proof we have (after I've pointed out that the crucial proof of him spinning his hammer, is missing panels), then it's shaky. Any other writer, I'd be sold on. Morrison, for example. But Aaron? Nah.
You can't pick and choose. 'Oh, Aaron knows what he's doing here, he has a fine handle on the character!!' 'WTF, Aaron is a hack who knows nothing about Thor!'
we're talking about a signature of the character. it doesn't matter whether it is stan lee, roy thomas, walt simonson, dan jurgens, matt fraction, or Jason aaron. if you think Thor is more likely to tell hammers to fly away from him, I think you are either forgetting key parts of the character on how he deals with hammers or you have not read enough scenes with the character... hence I find it highly abnormal if one's first inclination is to think that thor would more likely to tell his hammer to fly off as opposed to him throwing it away.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
dude u are literally nitpicking. u can say that about any writer. comics are inconsistent by nature. characterization is also different writer to writer.we're talking about a signature of the character. it doesn't matter whether it is stan lee, roy thomas, walt simonson, dan jurgens, matt fraction, or Jason aaron. if you think Thor is more likely to tell hammers to fly away from him, I think you are either forgetting key parts of the character on how he deals with hammers or you have not read enough scenes with the character... hence I find it highly abnormal if one's first inclination is to think that thor would more likely to tell his hammer to fly off as opposed to him throwing it away.
So you're first saying characterisation is different from writer to writer, and that comics are inconsistent.....
Then saying hey look, we should use the consistency argument to definitively, 100%, say XYZ?
Abnormal? Yes. If someone says 'Superman hit character A', on balance, he PROBABLY punched them, and not headbutted them, or bumped them with his muscular ass cheeks.
But it's not impossible. And if it's shown off panel, with no proof either way, but a previous issue showed that when someone was hit, they used their ass cheeks, then.....
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
facepalm
getting caught and knowing he was going to be put through the ringer was the plan. you know, to find out where they were keeping angela and find out how malekith was moving forces b/n realms...and later he proceeded to destroy their army.
Yeah and he still did not break out of the cell, his animals had to do it.
i mean did we read the same book? wtf? i can't even... For real man I can't take u seriously rite now.
Yes, we did. Tell us how Thor broke out of the cells again?
Originally posted by carver9
Seems like a small universe since it only have one planet
What are those bright lights in the sky, carver?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85It's not even a matter of having faith in Aaron.
👆 pretty much.And I guess I just don't have faith in Aaron to write Thor like Thor used to be, that's all.
Hammers can be sent AND controlled mentally. The creator of them has sent them en-masse. Loki has sent it by commanding it. Thor can mentally control the hammer's flight, show repeatedly. And we see Thor, standing outside the ship, with a new hammer, as the old hammer is moving the ship in toe right next to him and angela. This all happens within a few issue of his own run.
This is Thor fans trying to distract from having being tortured, breaking his bones and having his teeth pulled out.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWI think his eye-sockets are quite strong to restrain his flying eyeballs.
Thor needed his personal mythbusting thread 😂Is there some legit strength feat he has? I think he was stated to be stronger than Classic Rogue once, but I always thought of it as of an outlier, tbh.
