Comic Book Questions & Discussion

The 'Crisis fork' now has an origin, too, as the one being used by Monitor/A-M/World Forger to call for the judges.

Some neat references.

Pretty dude AM and Monitor both reforge whenever the multiverse is reset. It’s why the Monitor knew he was going to be reforged in the 6th dimension to start again

But because the AM no longer has a dimension, he never reboots/reforge

The WF dimension has never reset except when he died

Originally posted by Galan007
Morrison's Map has them as the same entity.

But again, I'm still not quite sure where Snyder is going with this. As mentioned, by the time the Overvoid first noticed creation and sent in a Probe for further study, it was already flourishing. As I said before, under Morrsion the Overvoid seemed be be completely unaware of this multiverse, and even regarded it as a 'flaw'.

But per this issue, the Source itself seemed to be commissioning the creation of an entire omniverse(ie. infinite multiverses.) Perpetua's creation was just one of them.

Perhaps Snyder is trying to spin it so that only Perpetua's multiverse was 'flawed', which is why the Overvoid was surprised by its existence and had it 'bottled' to prevent its spread..?

You're probably right 👆

My interpretation is that they are different

Primal Monitor resides outside the Omniverse and is the blank pages

the source is well...the source of all existence/omniverse, The judges of the source send beings like Perpetua to create different multiverses within the omniverse

I think we are beyond the morrison map at this point as different multiverses has been mentioned, morrison's map is only the multiverse that Perpetua created

also the 6th dimension... I'm not sure if it reside in the Overvoid, or is it still inside the Omniverse

Originally posted by MrMind
You're probably right 👆

My interpretation is that they are different

Primal Monitor resides outside the Omniverse and is the blank pages

the source is well...the source of all existence/omniverse, The judges of the source send beings like Perpetua to create different multiverses within the omniverse

I think we are beyond the morrison map at this point as different multiverses has been mentioned, morrison's map is only the multiverse that Perpetua created

also the 6th dimension... I'm not sure if it reside in the Overvoid, or is it still inside the Omniverse

Also it seems the the source(if it’s also the overvoid) lines up good with what Morrison already established. The overvoid was not aware of Perpetua’s action and the universe. It was also when the brothers sent out a signal that the source/overvoid found out and sent a guardian.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
The 6th dimension is not in the ominiverse. We technically see the 6th dimension a few times already. It’s like a river (or void) with many multiverse drifting

Also it seems the the source(if it’s also the overvoid) lines up good with what Morrison already established. The overvoid was not aware of Perpetua’s action and the universe. It was also when the brothers sent out a signal that the source/overvoid found out and sent a guardian.

Then how do you define the omniverse

Omniverse is the sum of all the multiverses, realms, dimensions

To have a dimension outside of it, doesn't make sense.

The bird was sent by the Judges of the Source
If the Source is the Primal Monitor, then that would mean those judges work for the Primal Monitor, seem unlikely

I highly doubt that's the case

I think Snyder is still definitely trying to keep Morrison's cosmology in play. Hence this:

Originally posted by Galan007
I think Snyder is still definitely trying to keep Morrison's cosmology in play. Hence this:

I get that
What I'm saying is maybe the map only represent the multiverse Perpetua created

All the other multiverses probably isn't on this map

World Forger and the Monitor were mentioning the sphere of the gods and prime universe, and they were inside Perpetua's creation

The map shouldn't be the entire omniverse

Here is how I see it.
The 6th dimension, like the 5th dimension isn’t shown on a map or a multiverse. It’s higher than that. Think of time and how it wouldn’t exist without a dimension(singular or otherwise). The 6th dimension seems to be area that connects all the multiverses..

Also when they call it a judge, it has more to do with the function of multiverse. They “drift” in the void until they reach a destination where the multiverse must be judged whether or not it is “good”

Also, it’s also possible the primal monitor/(and if it’s the source) is able to send being. It’s very likely since it has done it in SB2

I’m curious to see if Mandrakk function will be mentioned

You guys need to realize Snyder is a homo and no matter how much he pretends to be Morrison, he doesn't have the ability of Morrison.

It's like Anvil trying to be Carver9. No matter how many similarities he has, or how he tries to outdo Carver in ridiculousness, he will never be as put together as Carver, nor as well written.

So when you're trying to fit so and so together into what Morrison wrote, there will be contradictions.

Originally posted by MrMind
I get that
What I'm saying is maybe the map only represent the multiverse Perpetua created

All the other multiverses probably isn't on this map

or

is that map as it is an omniverse

The reason 5th dimension and 6th dimension are not on the multiverse map, is because it's beyond the map, they are not created by Perpetua, they are beyond/higher than her creation

another evidence that the multiverse Perpetua created = the map is that the source wall surround all her creation

Originally posted by MrMind
The reason 5th dimension and 6th dimension are not on the multiverse map, is because it's beyond the map, they are not created by Perpetua, they are beyond/higher than her creation

another evidence that the multiverse Perpetua created = the map is that the source wall surround all her creation

*I don't think Perpetua created the 4th dimension/Monitor Realm, though. That must have come later.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
You guys need to realize Snyder is a homo and no matter how much he pretends to be Morrison, he doesn't have the ability of Morrison.

It's like Anvil trying to be Carver9. No matter how many similarities he has, or how he tries to outdo Carver in ridiculousness, he will never be as put together as Carver, nor as well written.

So when you're trying to fit so and so together into what Morrison wrote, there will be contradictions.

Great post 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
*I don't think Perpetua created the 4th dimension/Monitor Realm, though. That must have come later.

I sure hope so

The 4th dimension is infinitely >>> than limbo infinitely>>> than Sphere of Gods infinitely>>> the main multiverse

If she created all of it, she should be in unimaginable scope as far as power

then these judges came and capture her so easily

this is getting ridiculous, I'm itching for what comes next lol

I'd almost say that the Monitor world came as a by-product of "resets". One of the "retcons" that the Monitor [and A-M] got in the 6th dimension.

The monitors themselves there are described as 'faceless' before story 'crystalized' around them in SB #2. That doesn't really jive with what a 'normal' one should be.

Yeah the monitor definitely resets to a different version

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yeah,But the map didn't showed dark multiverse or Antiverse.So I personally thought it just 1/3 of the original multiverse which created by perpetua

The Anti-Matter universe is essentially the anti-matter reflection of the positive matter multiverse, but there's no reason to think it sits outside 3-dimensional space or w/e... In fact, that would be quite contradictory of its purpose. Qward and the AMU could simply be represented by one of the seven 'unknown worlds/universes' on the existing Map.

Originally posted by Galan007
GotG:

Glads managed to beat BRB after a long battle.

Too bad we couldn't see all of it through all that chaos.

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Also, lol @ Frank being Daredevil's ***** boy.

Originally posted by Galan007
The Dark Multiverse is represented by the reverse side of Morrison's Map.

The Anti-Matter universe is essentially the anti-matter reflection of the positive matter multiverse, but there's no reason to think it sits outside 3-dimensional space or w/e... In fact, that would be quite contradictory of its purpose. Qward and the AMU could simply be represented by one of the seven 'unknown worlds/universes' on the existing Map.