Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Funny how Joker - with his super-sanity and obsessive behaviour - hasn't figured out that his wife still lives.
Yep. We know for a fact he still thinks of them as shown in Three Jokers Book 2.
He likely does know they exist but he doesn't care. As he hallucinated a perfect image of what his son looked like even though he technically never met him during the dinner scene
Originally posted by -Pr-
My biggest issue with the arc is that by the end of the book, the status quo has been pretty much restored. There are no lasting consequences that will drive future Batman books unless Johns himself decides he wants them to.
Originally posted by -K-M-
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTXPUF4Oz4
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Originally posted by -Pr-Yeah, you're probably right.
I honestly took it to be Johns trying to show that, as Batman's identity doesn't matter to the Joker, Joker's identity doesn't really matter to Batman either.Bar protecting the family at least.
I just much prefer Joker's identity not being known by anyone(even Batman.) A legitimate, defined backstory sort of...I dunno...cheapens his character for me.
Even though(like you said) no one but Johns is likely to ever touch on it again.
Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, you're probably right.I just much prefer Joker's identity not being known by anyone(even Batman.) A legitimate, defined backstory sort of...I dunno...cheapens his character for me.
Even though(like you said) no one but Johns is likely to ever touch on it again.
Yeah. Joker never needed to have his origin expanded upon. I mean, I took from it that he was flat-out canonising The Killing Joke origin, but it wasn't needed, I agree.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Yeah. Joker never needed to have his origin expanded upon. I mean, I took from it that he was flat-out canonising The Killing Joke origin, but it wasn't needed, I agree.
I agree. I prefer that the Joker's backstory isn't known to anyone, like in The Killing Joke. But I think the failed comedian backstory is indeed his actual backstory, it's been heavily implied several times in post crisis continuity that it's his actual backstory. Hush Returns also confirms it, but rewrites it in several ways, and I didn't like how they did it. 2019 Deluxe edition of The Killing Joke says that Joker has difficulty remembering his own backstory because of his insanity:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/530540938926358543/764560892649668658/image0.jpg
Originally posted by YousufKhan1212
I agree. I prefer that the Joker's backstory isn't known to anyone, like in The Killing Joke. But I think the failed comedian backstory is indeed his actual backstory, it's been heavily implied several times in post crisis continuity that it's his actual backstory. Hush Returns also confirms it, but rewrites it in several ways, and I didn't like how they did it. 2019 Deluxe edition of The Killing Joke says that Joker has difficulty remembering his own backstory because of his insanity:https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/530540938926358543/764560892649668658/image0.jpg
Yeah, though that's always the problem with Joker, imo: you can imply all you like, but hammering out a definitive origin was supposed to be something DC would never commit too.
They're trying to have their cake and eat it too.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Johns stated that Three Jokers has the same canon status as TKJ.Meaning that fans (and other creative teams) are allowed to go the "I don't like it, it didn't happen" route.
That is... horrifically irresponsible, unless Darkseid War is somehow not canon anymore?
Sorry, it was Fabok who said that:
Jason Fabok
@JasonFabok
It's in continuity like Killing Joke is. You can take it, or leave it. We are going to introduce some pretty gutsy stuff in Jokers that's never been done before. So the fans can react to it and they can decide if they want it part of main continuity or not, like Killing Joke.
5:22 PM · Sep 27, 2019
Johns is not articulate enough to make a coherent statement, probably too busy playing with his own food, while sitting in the room with no doors or windows.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Sorry, it was Fabok who said that:Jason Fabok
@JasonFabok
It's in continuity like Killing Joke is. You can take it, or leave it. We are going to introduce some pretty gutsy stuff in Jokers that's never been done before. So the fans can react to it and they can decide if they want it part of main continuity or not, like Killing Joke.
5:22 PM · Sep 27, 2019Johns is not articulate enough to make a coherent statement, probably too busy playing with his own food, while sitting in the room with no doors or windows.
Ah ok. I used to like Johns. But he's... he's not what he used to be.
