Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
"Your Thunder God unleashed a power I had never before felt on all the Worlds I had wrapped my horde around."
*Carver starts sweating*
This makes Gorr even more OP. I want Thor to just permanent stay off planet, and have Sentry and the Hulk join the Avengers.
Lol... I actually like Thor and Hulk is going toe to toe with Knull. Hope he doesn't get stomped and does well because both of them are fighting for the same thing, control of the night.
One thing I notice about Marvel unlike DC villians don't necessarily mostly stay with their rivals all the time.
Like Doom is pretty much everyone's villian on earth.
Annihilus pretty messes with Avengers, FF and any cosmic character.
Mephisto has never just stayed only being Silver Surfer's and Ghost Rider's villian.
Skrulls never just stayed to being FF villians.
Galactus has been everywhere.
Kingpin messes with all the street level heroes and Black Panther sometimes.
Kraven has just started to be a primary villian for Spider-Man again. The past 2 decades he's been messing with Black Panther, Scarlet Spider-Man and Daredevil.
Bullseye messes with everyone on earth.
Sometimes I even forget the wrecking Crew are originally Thor villians.
Hydra leaders and Zemo, Red Skull and ect tend to mess with everyone on earth besides Cap.
Now my Question is besides Darkseid and occasionally JL villians whose like that at DC? I remember reading seeing Batman's villians and sometimes a Flash bother other heroes.
to me that's dull and boring. For what I like about Marvel is someone like Klaw would be fighting Black Panther, Daredevil, Captain Marvel and the Avengers. Kingpin fights all the street level heroes including Captain America and Black Panther from time to time. To me mix it up have villians trade off. For instance have Lex Luther go after Batman for a bit. Have Joker go after Green Arrow. Have a bunch of Yellow Lanterns attack Superman. Have Superman villains besides Zod attack the GL's.
Originally posted by -Pr-
...The Injustice Society/League doesn't count? pr1983I think now would be a good time to stop pretending you actually read DC. In fact, that's what I'm going to assume is the truth.
I mean it does but doesn't because they still only face their heroes.
DC needs to stop only doing villians only for certain heroes and spread them out make it more interesting. Its EXACTLY why Marvel's always been the better company
BECAUSE of the reliance DC has on its trinity + it runs into the problems where guys specifically designed to fit certain heroes just don't work that well against ANOTHER main hero. So you mostly get the guys like parasite who do more crossover work vs the marque villians like joker. Heck, DC did a joker superman book mostly as a gag in just how easily superman stops a character like that. Meanwhile marvel street tier all can carry a full or partial run, so it's easier for villians to cross into different hero books.
Like have Flash deal with some Lanterns.
Have Grodd decide you know what I want to **** up Gotham just cause.
Marvel doesn't have this issue and never will 👍
Originally posted by abhilegend
Turns out Don Blake is as powerful as current Thor+Odinforce+Jormungand's power.And yet gets hurt by a punch from Volstagg lol. Cates doesn't know power levels.
Your math is wrong: He has the Midgard Serpent's power + the internal Odin Force giving him the power of Asgardians aka Thor
P.S. Power =/= Durability. That is why he still had the armor of the Midgard Serpent.
Donald Blake is completely unique.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I mean it does but doesn't because they still only face their heroes.
DC needs to stop only doing villians only for certain heroes and spread them out make it more interesting. Its EXACTLY why Marvel's always been the better companyBECAUSE of the reliance DC has on its trinity + it runs into the problems where guys specifically designed to fit certain heroes just don't work that well against ANOTHER main hero. So you mostly get the guys like parasite who do more crossover work vs the marque villians like joker. Heck, DC did a joker superman book mostly as a gag in just how easily superman stops a character like that. Meanwhile marvel street tier all can carry a full or partial run, so it's easier for villians to cross into different hero books.
Like have Flash deal with some Lanterns.
Have Grodd decide you know what I want to **** up Gotham just cause.Marvel doesn't have this issue and never will 👍
Except that what you just said is horseshit.
DC has been letting heroes fight each other's villains for years, and finding ways to make those villains challenge those heroes. Villains that started as one hero's enemy have migrated to either become the villain of another hero in an arc, or the actual Justice League.
You're literally lying just so you can talk about how great Marvel is, and that's the sign of a bad argument. Marvel should be good enough, to you, that you don't need to shit on something else to make your point.
That's like saying Hickman's X-Men is good purely because it isn't Bendis's Superman, when they're both varying levels of shite.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Your math is wrong: He has the Midgard Serpent's power + the internal Odin Force giving him the power of Asgardians aka ThorP.S. Power =/= Durability. That is why he still had the armor of the Midgard Serpent.
Donald Blake is completely unique.
"Skills and strength of their king".
Blake also says that anything Thor can do he can do too. Its clear he is as strong as All Father Thor.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Except that what you just said is horseshit.DC has been letting heroes fight each other's villains for years, and finding ways to make those villains challenge those heroes. Villains that started as one hero's enemy have migrated to either become the villain of another hero in an arc, or the actual Justice League.
You're literally lying just so you can talk about how great Marvel is, and that's the sign of a bad argument. Marvel should be good enough, to you, that you don't need to shit on something else to make your point.
That's like saying Hickman's X-Men is good purely because it isn't Bendis's Superman, when they're both varying levels of shite.
🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ ONLY Recently DC has been switching select villains around others (Deathstroke, Year of the Villain had some switching, Batmans roguevsuch as Black Mask) but not to the extent that Marvel has. Marvel villians are overall villians not just to them but to everyone.
Hell Killmonger has messed with Deadpool, Iron Man, Daredevil and Captain America before.
Hal fought Zod and Cyborg Superman. He even legitimately defeated Zod unded two yellow suns.
Superman faced Sinestro before that. He looked a lot worse for it then Hal, frankly, which is a credit to the writers willingness to make an off brand villian look credible against their flagship hero.
Back Adam and the Marvel family villians have had confrontations with Superman since the Pre Crisis era. Flash Villian Hector Hammond was a thorn in Green Lanterns side, teaming up with Grodd. Kyle Rayner took out Mongul, as did Hal, as did Flash (Mongul classic became a bit of a joke)
Villian crossovers happened all the time, since all eras of DC.
Zoom, a Flash villain, fought WW and destroyed Batman.
Lobo became a Superman villain, but many FORGET that he is ALSO a RED Lantern, FACT.
GRUNDY used to be an ALAN Scot villain, but BATMAN has also fought him, PERIOD.
Joker MESSES with Aquaman. EVEN most of DC EARTH, hell, DCU with EMPEROR Joker. THIS isn't DEBATEABLE, period.
DEATHSTROKE used to BE a TEEN Titans villain, but has messed WITH the JLA, WW, Batman, EVEN Superman.
CDTM, MY GUY, Cheetah, a WW villain, has fought Flash and the JLA, even Batman has one SHOTTED her 😂 😂
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Blake is a creation of the Odin Force. He's flesh and blood and human, but he doesn't his essence is the Odin Force. Which technically makes him an Asgardian. When the Serpent shared his power, he was able to tap into his inner God Blast more or less and then drained the Serpent of all its power.Bill was weakened and facing someone with the power of the Midgard Serpent, and the OF in a human sized-form. He was f*cked.
But yes, I hope Bill has a redemption, I don't like seeing him beaten like that. I wouldn't mind having Bill save the day.
This is weird, the way Cates wrote it.
If Blake ALWAYS had the OF in him - what was the point of Thor becoming a weak powerless human with a limp? If the persona he transformed into - Blake - was capable of doing what Thor has never done, which is make the Serpent his b!tch?