Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Agreed with them not being equal in terms of versatility, I meant in terms of them being godly immortals. Of course they aren't cookie cutter the same in ALL aspects - Thor is blonder etc.

But that was what I was discussing. Carver coming in with his frenzied poopings wasn't what I wanted.

They're inherently different. Hercules is a brick, but Thor is an elemental god, it creates a lot of differences in their abilities, especially the exotic ones. Even their immortality is different, see: God Blast

Example: Ragnarok had a large chunk of his mechanical brain teleported which should have killed him but he survived:

And when exposed to lightning, he healed.

That's what I mean by inherently different.

Indeed.

You catch my Red Cloud scans?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
She's not poison gas.

She's interdimensional energy.

I know poor Carver is bereft of me educating him, so anyone can feel free to quote me, so he can once more be schooled on comics.

That's how humans can survive her attacks. She isn't 'just' poison gas, she can control her energy output, after being bonded with another dimension that nobody knows the properties of, not even if it is matter or antimatter.

So Red Cloud was exposed to interdimensional energy and turned into a gas based entity. Why does that change the fact that she's still gas? Vapor was exposed to cosmic radiation and made something different:

Superman was brought to his knees in a similar manner. Does the unknown factor make it better? I.e. Vapor was turned into Arsenic and Red Cloud is an unknown entity probably off the periodic-table?

That's kind of strange, but sure whatever. I don't really care as long as people are consistent. In the Thor scan Abhilgend posted, Thor was taken out after the Kree Empire (Led by the Supreme Intelligence) prepped for their defeat (Notice how non-humans like the Titan Eros succumbed much quicker than Thor):

They have super-science capable of draining Ego in the same story and presumably would also use elements completely beyond regular poison and off the periodic table. And the Ruul that attacked the Avengers were specifically designed to drain energy and weaken.

No..... Superman was attacked by interdimensional energy.

It says so right in the first scan.

Your scan says interdimensional bonding, and that she might be matter or anti-matter. Then she proceeds to blast the humans in her gaseous form.

What's the relevance? Let's assume she's gas because her molecules are anti-matter now. Superman was still being chocked out in Carver's scan. What is your point of distinction here? Thor was brought to his knees by Kree super science with prep, but it was still a gaseous form. Does the Thor scan count? I don't care what your stance is as long as its consistent.

KMC is like:

vin

Also, it was confirmed by the Galactic council that Thor's fight with Thanos was indeed Universal. I remember some...usual suspects wanting to ignore on-panel evidence that the Chalice wasn't actually a Universal-level weapon (Which is stupid. Why would Thanos go for any less?).

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Also, it was confirmed by the Galactic council that Thor's fight with Thanos was indeed Universal. I remember some...usual suspects wanting to ignore on-panel evidence that the Chalice wasn't actually a Universal-level weapon (Which is stupid. Why would Thanos go for any less?).

When did Thor beat the crap out of Thanos?

The Jurgens run. It was retconned into a Thanosi clone by Starlin a few years after this.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Your scan says interdimensional bonding, and that she might be matter or anti-matter. Then she proceeds to blast the humans in her gaseous form.

What's the relevance? Let's assume she's gas because her molecules are anti-matter now. Superman was still being chocked out in Carver's scan. What is your point of distinction here? Thor was brought to his knees by Kree super science with prep, but it was still a gaseous form. Does the Thor scan count? I don't care what your stance is as long as its consistent.

First scan- where Superman said he was attacked by Red Cloud's interdimensional energies

The one where he called up sun level storms, and finished with anti-energy?

Thanos looked formidable enough in it, and Thor needed Skyfather gear to beat him, never understood why the need for a retcon.

Lol @ mentioning interdimensional energy having anything to do with Superman being choked out by poison. A human survived the same attack.

Originally posted by carver9
Also, a human withstood the same attack...

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https://ibb.co/6ndQtkq

Originally posted by carver9
Lol @ mentioning interdimensional energy having anything to do with Superman being choked out by poison. A human survived the same attack.

The "poison" is inter-dimensional energy.

Originally posted by cdtm
The "poison" is inter-dimensional energy.

That a HUMAN withstood. Gotcha.

And Batman withstands an amped GoW WW,who is bloodlusted, and without his armour. Isn't he just a human? Gotcha.

I'm sure that means WW is weak, amirite?

Carver, please stop pooping.

WW *is* weak.

She's just a woman, after all.

There's also a basic logical fallacy in assuming a unique energy wouldn't bypass defenses, and be equally (Even non lethally) effective against a normal human or Superman.

Superman also says it is 'unlike anything he's ever faced before' - so that rules out run of the mill poison gas.