Originally posted by LordGodIt essentially negates all previous Crisis events and/or alterations to continuity, and consolidates DC's entire history(from the beginning to current) into a single timeline.
So does this mean all character feats ever preformed are usable for the current versions?
So yes, this should theoretically mean that everything a DC character has ever done is applicable to their current version. We'll still have to see how Death Metal wraps up to know for sure if there are any loose ends and whatnot.
They need to just reboot everything and actually plan things through and actually start from scratch **** a 52 I mean start with everyone from jump. This will get things more complicated. Seriously they're losing sales. Darknights's Metal didn't help their sales it's hurting them now. DC fans now don't see it but there's a reason why AT&T fire alot of DC'S staff they are subsidizing them and they aren't getting much a return on their investment.
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXXMxy and Manhattan can perceive all of time simultaneously -- the fourth dimension is an open book to them. The difference is that Manhattan was a normal human being who was gifted with his God-esque abilities later in life(which he has massively evolved over the years, btw)... But even though he has shed most of his humanity, he still thinks like a human from time to time, and often gets the past/present/future mixed up(especially if there is significant 'interference'.)
is there a difference between how mxy perceives time and how doc manhattan perceives time?and if darkest knight has doc manhattan's powers, wouldn't he already know exactly how this entire thing is going to end?
Conversely, Mxy is a 5th dimensional thought-form -- he likely has a much easier time grasping the intricacies of the timestream, because he is not inhibited by a human mind in any way.
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXXNot necessarily. Doomsday Clock showed us that complete alterations to continuity(even ones he personally causes) are evidently beyond Manhattan's ability to foresee. That said, I imagine the Darkest Night's ability to view the future would also be 'restricted' in such a way. IOW, DN may not be able to see the exact outcome of this event, given that it will seemingly conclude with another massive continuity reboot.
and if darkest knight has doc manhattan's powers, wouldn't he already know exactly how this entire thing is going to end?
Originally posted by xJLxKingjust doesnt make sense to me. the final punch he saw superman throwing at him was actually just superman saving him from a firestorm. then there was a bit of dialogue before manhattan decided to remake the multiverse. why couldnt he see that in his future?
Same reason other omnipotent beings will end up losing to any main characterIt really doesn’t make sense, even if we assume the assumption that Superman is the heart of DCU
This will probably sound like a jumbled mess, but I'll try to make it somewhat comprehensible...
I see it as two completely different continuities... Two entirely separate 'things':
-Continuity #1 ("C-1"😉: ends at Superman's punch.
-Continuity #2 ("C-2"😉: starts at Superman's punch.
My opinion is that Manhattan originally couldn't see any future after Superman's punch, because that is the moment where C-1 ended, and C-2 began -- he was only seeing into the future of the former. So perhaps his ability to perceive the future is limited to one continuity at a time.
IOW, I believe Manhattan rebooted the metaverse in such a way that the previous continuity stopped at this moment:
https://ibb.co/vdzCkWM
Which is why he could not see the future of C-1 beyond that point, no matter how far he looked:
https://ibb.co/pj5bGSy
...Because C-1 technically ceased to exist after Superman's punch.
And under my theory, this was also the overlapping starting point of C-2:
https://ibb.co/vdzCkWM
From that point, Manhattan created a completely new continuity, with a completely new future, from scratch:
https://ibb.co/68f52gy
https://ibb.co/BySJW5P
https://ibb.co/6R2dw3S
https://ibb.co/Yytfvw4
https://ibb.co/09PfqwC
And once C-2 properly manifested, and Manhattan inserted himself into it, he obviously had no problem seeing into its future:
https://ibb.co/pvPcRCz
https://ibb.co/9b7vpdN
So again, it's possible that Manhattan can only see into the future of one fully realized continuity at a time.
Hope that made some kind of sense. 🤓
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
just doesnt make sense to me. the final punch he saw superman throwing at him was actually just superman saving him from a firestorm. then there was a bit of dialogue before manhattan decided to remake the multiverse. why couldnt he see that in his future?
It was all revealed in the build up. DM called Superman the multiverses anti-body. He could not see past the punch, because Supetmans timeline is the one thing even he can not meddle with.
Since the only one who can choose his destiny is Superman himself, then thsre is nothing for Doctor Manhattan to see. There is only that moment in the present, when he choose the "right" path. Whatever that path is, to do what he's always done.
Save the day.
More or less, the Grant Morrison metaverse logic coming to play.
Its less about Supermans power, and the fact he is the nexus from which the DCU evolved. You really can't meddle with his history because of his importance to the big picture, as Doctor Manhattan himself could never have existed without Superman being the lynchpin of it all.