Originally posted by DarthCaedus77
Two of those Caedus is above but yah know.OT-Team one in a good fight.
Sidious>>Valkorion
Vader>Arcann
Luke>Vaylin
Caedus>Outlander
Revan>MarekTeam then gans up on Revan and ends him easily.
You haven't beaten me yet.
OT:
Sidious>Valkorion
Vader>Arcann
Luke>Vaylin
Outlander>Caedus
Revan>SK
Team 1 gangs up on The Outlander and Caedus after beating the rest.
Team 1 wins in a good fight.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Starkiller is so far beyond Vader that your denial is hilarious.
Sure he is. So far beyond him that Vader gave him a good fight well before his prime and was stated to be "No less powerful". But sure, it's amusing to watch you squirm at the thought of Vader being competent.
The actual fights have Vader being subdued hard,
Which is factually incorrect given Vader fought him and gave a good fight before losing [Not my opinion btw but what the TFU novels actually state, not fanfiction you've created]. In TFU 2 Vader was also described as being "No less powerful" than Marek.
despite the second time occurring when Starkiller is in one of his weakest states.
Which I'll address in my Caedus V Outlander CAV post on CV, until then I have no interest in adressing the exhaustion argument.
Of course Vader can compete with that.
If he can give him a fight well before his prime it stands to logic he can beat him yes.
But apparently you also think Vader can give Sheev a 'desperate' battle that causes him grave pain.
Implying TFU Sidious and Marek are close is asinine when the former tanked the full force of a blast from the latter that was stated to "make his efforts with the dark side of the force look like those of a child".
Continue taking L's AP, it's funny to watch you fail at everything.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Squirm? 😂The actual fights have Vader being subdued hard, despite the second time occurring when Starkiller is in one of his weakest states. Of course Vader can compete with that.
But apparently you also think Vader can give Sheev a 'desperate' battle that causes him grave pain.
Lmao. Galen is described as no match for The Emperor and the most we see is Galen nearly collapsing under the weight of a holding back Sidious's lightning. Then Marek manages to hold and pressure Sidious for a few seconds which takes alll his energy and he nearly dies doing it. Then Sidious tanks his oneness blast. Not seeing that parity you were talking about.
Also it's stated that The Emperor could overpower the combined might of Vader and Galen.
Literally everything you said is wrong.
Vader got subdued on both occasions, a few cheapshot mid-air attacks notwithstanding.
Concession accepted.
He gave an exhausted Starkiller a good fight. Until you actually prove that one of the most solid debunks of the year is wrong then this remains true.
But it's funny that you think making pre-betrayal Marek's feats look like child play's somehow means that this negates the fact that Marek punched so far above what Vader ever achieved.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Literally everything you said is wrong.Vader got subdued on both occasions, a few cheapshot mid-air attacks notwithstanding.
Concession accepted.
He gave an exhausted Starkiller a good fight. Until you actually prove that one of the most solid debunks of the year is wrong then this remains true.
But it's funny that you think making pre-betrayal Marek's feats look like child play's somehow means that this negates the fact that Marek punched so far above what Vader ever achieved.
1. How ironic coming from you.
2. Was it a cheapshot in the first game when Vader sent Marek flying backwards with a Force Push that stunned him for about 5 seconds? Didn't think so. No one is saying Vader doesn't lose to Marek it's just a case of how far below Marek he actually is.
3. I'm not really sure where I stand on the exhaustion argument so I'll leave this be for now.
4. He's just pointing out that contrary to what you believe Galen wasn't a match for The Emperor.