Sidious vs Valkorion - Dynasties Collide

Saying Vader lost to Marek isn't a concession as that was never my point to begin with you idiot. My point was a pre prime Vader can give him a fight [Congratulations, he did so you saying he's far above Vader is rendered moot and as a side note he's described as no less powerful than Marek in TFU 2] so peak Vader should take him, a point you've utterly failed to address.

Neither is not addressing it here, I'm saving it for my CAV post so my opponent doesn't get an idea of my arguments before I post them, which is common sense.

Evidently doesn't have basic reading comprehension. Sidious was holding back against Marek which is why Marek made him struggle, straight after Sidious tanks his oneness blast lol. Marek and TFU Sidious aren't even in the same dimension.

Originally posted by HP Legend
Lmao. Galen is described as no match for The Emperor and the most we see is Galen nearly collapsing under the wieght of a holding back Sidious's lightning. Then Marek manages to hold and pressure Sidious for a few seconds which takes alll his energy and he nearly dies doing it. Then Sidious tanks his oneness blast. Not seeing that parity you were talking about.

Also it's stated that The Emperor could overpower the combined might of Vader and Galen.

None of which is as important as the novelisation, the canonically definitive source and primary version of the story, stating this:

Another staggering, painful step and the Emperor was within the apprentice's reach. With shaking fingers, he took the old man's bony shoulders in his hands and gripped them tight. The Sith lightning spread to engulf the two of them, fueled by both their desperations. The Emperor tipped back his head and howled in lascivious pain. Darkness threatened to envelop the apprentice's mind, but he clutched to consciousness with feverish will. He had to see this through. He had to.
- The Force Unleashed

No other sources on the matter are relevant by comparison.

Originally posted by AncientPower
None of which is as important as the novelisation, the canonically definitive source and primary version of the story, stating this:

No other sources on the matter are relevant by comparison.

Lol. Do you genuinally lack basic reading comprehension? I was going according to the Novelization account.

Another staggering, painful step and the Emperor was within the apprentice's reach. With shaking fingers, he took the old man's bony shoulders in his hands and gripped them tight."

In the first part of what I said I mentioned how Galen was nearly overwhelmed by a holding back Sidious's lightning which is true. Galen is noted to be staggering towards The Emperor, his steps are noted to be painful and his fingers are stated to be shaking and this was while Sidious was holding back.

The Sith lightning spread to engulf the two of them, fueled by both their desperations. The Emperor tipped back his head and howled in lascivious pain. Darkness threatened to envelop the apprentice's mind, but he clutched to
consciousness with feverish will. He had to see this through. He had to.

Then Marek throws all of his power into one attack and manages to hold Sidious for about 5 seconds at most and nearly dies while doing so barely managing to hold on.

"No!" the apprentice cried, dropping his defenses to strike one last time at the Imperials. Energy surged through him. He felt as though a star had blazed to life in his chest. Driven by concern for his friends rather than himself, he embraced the Force completely, utterly, and was rewarded with strength that made his efforts with the dark side look like those of a child. His nerves were on fire. Streamers of light radiated from his skin. His bones glowed like radiant lava. He saw rather than felt the massive shock wave that consumed a large portion of what remained of the observation dome.

Then of course he tanks Galen's oneness blast which was stated to have strength which made his efforts with the dark side look like those of a child.

Sheev is far above Galen. The amount of lowballing you bestow upon His Imperial Majesty truly is astounding.

Lmao, AP overrates Sheev if anything.