Hancock/Thor vs Doomsday

Originally posted by Silent Master
Are you joking? a neutron star gives of trillions of times more energy than a nuke and that doesn't even count the massive durability needed to be that close to a NS without becoming a pancake.

Plus, Superman didn't get better under his own power. he was healed via the exposure to the sun.

larger temperature = more energy
It takes energy to heat something up. The final result of how much energy is in the temperature.

Temperature is all that matters as it represents the average kinetic energy of a substance.

The neutron star exhibited no other forces, otherwise the rocket raccoon, the ship, etc would have been subject to them. The star had no phucking gravity for crying out loud. The writer didn't even write that in.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
We’re talking a flyer that can attack from a distance via a cutting weapon strong enough to defeat a beam from a weapon capable of world plus level to sub universal power (IG) that returns on command vs a grounded non-flyer who was killed by a piercing weapon and whose only ranged attack (heat vision) will be completely inneffective against the flyer that has a teamate that can posibbly just swat away anything thrown their way in terms of debris.

Thanos tried to destroy the hammer. It was a durability against energy beam feat. Nothing more.

Thor fights his single enimies up close for the most part.

I agree the hv will do little to nothing to Thor.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Nope. They are about that hot:

http://www.atomicarchive.com/Effects/effects7.shtml

But a neutron Star is much hotter:

https://www.quora.com/Is-a-neutron-star-as-hot-as-the-star-its-made-of

Yes the temperature of a neutron star that is many years old is around 1 million degrees. Thor withstood a 1 million degree heat beam for several moments before dying.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The difference is that the nuke is a 1, whereas the NS is around 10,000.

So how is 1 million degrees more than 100 million?
Such a retarded statement.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Prove it.

What's the full force of a star?
10 tons?

If you can't give a rough estimate then you concede that it is figurative language.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Watch the scene where Thor and Rocket was talking en route to Nidevellir.

Okay, I must have missed that. I'll check again when I'm home but either way the star was cold and inert when they got there. Is there anyone who seriously thinks Rocket's little ship was enough to re-ignite a neutron star back to it's full power?

Also, why is this even part of the argument? Thor didn't tank the star's heat, he was about to die before Groot finished Stormbreaker for him.

^ I hope h1 didn’t just waste his time replying to me, seeing as he is on my ignore list, the coward/liar/troll that he is. Someone pls tell him that IF he really does want to debate, there are a couple of BZ challenges he needs to address first.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Is this a joke? A nuke is thousands of times hotter than a star. A nuclear explosion is about 100,000,000° Celsius at its center where Superman and Doomsday were. In comparison the surface of a star like our Sun is only about 5,000° Celsius. Even the son's core isn't as hot as a nuke (15 million degrees vs 100 million).

Thor was dying without Stormbreaker anyway while Superman recovered under his own power.

I really can’t be bothered repeating arguments vs Thor’s “feat” that were already debunked in prior debates. If you want to argue a quantification of the neutron star “feat” vs the Nuke, you can look at this debate:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=16613299&highlight=neutron+star+nuke+userid%3A138814#post16613299

Pls read before pushing forward with your logic/inquiries.

Especially when it is totally moot. Thor has the ability to attack at a range DD cannot retaliate against against using a weapon that have better “feats” than WW’s sword.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Okay, I must have missed that. I'll check again when I'm home but either way the star was cold and inert when they got there. Is there anyone who seriously thinks Rocket's little ship was enough to re-ignite a neutron star back to it's full power?

Also, why is this even part of the argument? Thor didn't tank the star's heat, he was about to die before Groot finished Stormbreaker for him.

Rocket didn’t reignite it. They managed to reopen the focusing iris allowing the forges to reignite using the star..

He took it for at least “a couple of minutes” (based on in-story expert’s comment). That is tanking it. He didn’t “shrug it off”, but he did tank it.

And if you look at the above thread, you’ll have your concerns addressed (especially the difference between heat energy and temperature w/c is the reason why the Thor “feat” is so impressive).

Originally posted by h1a8
What's the full force of a star?
10 tons?

If you can't give a rough estimate then you concede that it is figurative language.

Take your retarded trolling elsewhere.

The star discussion again?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Take your retarded trolling elsewhere.

You are the one who claimed the full force, yet cannot quantify about how much force that is. We all know who's doing the trolling here.

Originally posted by h1a8
You are the one who claimed the full force, yet cannot quantify about how much force that is. We all know who's doing the trolling here.

See, now you're just lying. the movie itself stated full force of the star. not me.

Now take your lying and trolling elsewhere.

Thor with Stormbreaker cleaves Doomsday in as many pieces as he wants. Hancock could help if he felt like it; maybe fly Doomsday to the moon or something. John isn't needed here however.

Finished watching IW again last night: Thor using Rocket in the ship as a sling to start rotating the rings and then taking the neutron star's force to keep the forge's iris open is leagues ahead of anything any mainline DCEU or MCU hero/villain has done thus far on screen. It's a Reeve Superman level of feat.

The duo figure out a way to eliminate Doomsday sooner or later.

All he was doing was trying to break the ice on the rings that was jamming it up. On the contrary, Superman pulled an ocean frigate stuck in ice.

If Superman needed to recreate that feat all he would have had to do is he heat vision the ice.

Thors feat is no where a island lift that classic supes has done.

"sitting back and eating popcorn"

Someone isn't taking into account how massive those rings were.

Rings big enough to surround a neutron star >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ocean liner

The star wasn't that big, it also was not emitting any substantial gravity, so it obviously wasn't that big.

LOL!!!

Was it emitting gravity?

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
"sitting back and eating popcorn"

laughing at the silly trolls

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Was it emitting gravity?

jeez TI, Are you this dumb and ignorant?????

First on ignore list^ congrats BS