Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Video "nitwit" controversy

Started by Surtur13 pages
Originally posted by Silent Master
It appears to be, people that disagree with him. I mean judging by his argument that they've made videos on some of the same topics, The Young Turks and Bill Maher are also alt right.

Some of the reasoning is just bizarre. I'm not sure why thinking what Patreon did to Sargon was unfair is a view held strictly by the alt right. Hell Dave Rubin didn't think it was fair, I guess now he's alt right too. It also makes Sam Harris alt right.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Where did I say I disagreed with them?

If their opinions make them alt right and you agree with them, that means you're alt right.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
You must've missed the bit where I mentioned that they all have the same opinions on the same topics. It's not about just covering a particular subject. It's about what they think about those subjects.

You say they have the same opinions, yet you haven't actually said what those opinions were nor provided any proof that they actually hold that opinion. Nor have you explained how whatever opinion you claim they have is an alt right opinion.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If their opinions make them alt right and you agree with them, that means you're alt right.

Maybe in your world. Some people are sycophants though.

I can agree with some of their opinions on some topics and disagree with others.

Same with YouTubers from the left that I follow like Thunderf00t.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Maybe in your world. Some people are sycophants though.

I can agree with some of their opinions on some topics and disagree with others.

Same with YouTubers from the left that I follow like Thunderf00t.

The problem is they do not agree with the right on every issue. They have the same opinion as conservatives over SJW's, the outrage culture, etc

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Maybe in your world. Some people are sycophants though.

I can agree with some of their opinions on some topics and disagree with others.

Same with YouTubers from the left that I follow like Thunderf00t.

Ah, so now we're back to you disagreeing with them and those disagreements making them alt right. in other words, I was correct in stating that you view the alt right as anyone that you disagree with.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Ah, so now we're back to you disagreeing with them and those disagreements making them alt right. in other words, I was correct in stating that you view the alt right as anyone that you disagree with.

My disagreeing with some opinions doesn't have any bearing on whether they are alt-right. It's their opinions that make them alt-right. If you have the same opinion on a large number of issues as the likes of Tommy Robinson, Lauren Southern, Pat Condell, Stefan Molyneux, PJW and Crowder then you're alt-right. They do, he does, so they are.

Yet you still haven't stated what opinions they share nor what makes those opinions alt right.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yet you still haven't stated what opinions they share nor what makes those opinions alt right.

Yet I already gave several examples of issues they've shared opinion on.

There's general consensus that they mostly wanted Trump to win the election. A right wing stance

They mostly are in favour of Brexit. Some a so called "hard" Brexit. A right wing stance.

They are, for the most part, anti-immigration. A right wing stance.

Then they share consensus on issues that the old school right don't usually address. Feminism, social justice, antifa, social media conglomerate hegemony.

No, you had listed several topics you didn't actually explain what their opinions were about those topics nor what made those opinions alt right. You appear to be under the impression that right wing and ALT right are the same thing.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, you had listed several topics you didn't actually explain what their opinions were about those topics nor what made those opinions alt right. You appear to be under the impression that right wing and ALT right are the same thing.

Except for where I mentioned the topics that the traditional right doesn't address. Hence making those who do cover those issues, alternative.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Except for where I mentioned the topics that the traditional right doesn't address. Hence making those who do cover those issues, alternative.

The issues you listed that aren't traditionally right wing talking points are relatively new.

The reason you don't see the so called traditional right address those issues is because you've labeled everyone that does address them as alt right. Your logic is dizzying.

Here is the actual definition of alt-right.https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alt-right

: a right-wing, primarily online political movement or grouping based in the U.S. whose members reject mainstream conservative politics and espouse extremist beliefs and policies typically centered on ideas of white nationalism
Originally posted by darthgoober
The issues you listed that aren't traditionally right wing talking points are relatively new.

So is the "alt-right".

Originally posted by Silent Master
The reason you don't see the so called traditional right address those issues is because you've labeled everyone that does address them as alt right. Your logic is dizzying.

Here is the actual definition of alt-right.https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alt-right

Except that's not alt-right. That's just the same old far right that's been around for decades.

Alt right doesn't just mean new conservatives, it describes a specific type of extreme right-wing white nationalist type of conservatives.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alt-right

: a right-wing, primarily online political movement or grouping based in the U.S. whose members reject mainstream conservative politics and espouse extremist beliefs and policies typically centered on ideas of white nationalism
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Except that's not alt-right. That's just the same old far right that's been around for decades.

I believe you mean, that's not how you personally define the alt right.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
So is the "alt-right".

Which matters how? You listed general issues of the right and issues that there was no reason to take a stance against in previous times as proof that they're "alt right"... seems kinda like you think that "right"="alt right" tbh...

Originally posted by Silent Master
Alt right doesn't just mean new conservatives, it describes a specific type of extreme right-wing white nationalist type of conservatives.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alt-right

Funny that when unite the right rally happened and certain media outlets called it an alt-right event, certain people were clambering over themselves to declare that it wasn't the real alt-right.

Man, with how serious business you guys are about correcting a mislabeling of somewhat right-wing talking points, I'm very tempted to troll the shit out of you guys for lulz but string you along for as many posts as possible to see the depths of your anger.

I had no idea this was such a passionate topic.

lol!!!