The weight of the water displaced = weight of the ship (buoyant force).
The coefficient of friction of steel on ice can vary depending on temperature of the ice and how smooth the surface of the ice is.
So Nibedicus is more likely correct.
Anyway it's funny how Inhuman lowballs the shit out of Superman but doesn't do the same for Thor or other marvel characters.
We all know in fiction that the whole crumbling under something's weight if often violated (especially with superheroes lifting shit). Superman was supplying the entire weight force in size of his hands. Do you know how much pressure that is?
Most known materials that size would crumble or be damaged with such pressures.
Here is a question for Inhuman. So when comic characters lift buildings, pyramids, etc and they don't crumble under their own weight then does that mean the building, pyramid, etc is far lighter than we think?
Anyway, Superman got the tectonic plate feat. Unless you want to argue that's an outlier. And if so then we have to do so to all other characters just to be fair.
Originally posted by h1a8
The weight of the water displaced = weight of the ship (buoyant force).The coefficient of friction of steel on ice can vary depending on temperature of the ice and how smooth the surface of the ice is.
So Nibedicus is more likely correct.
Anyway it's funny how Inhuman lowballs the shit out of Superman but doesn't do the same for Thor or other marvel characters.
We all know in fiction that the whole crumbling under something's weight if often violated (especially with superheroes lifting shit). Superman was supplying the entire weight force in size of his hands. Do you know how much pressure that is?
Most known materials that size would crumble or be damaged with such pressures.Here is a question for Inhuman. So when comic characters lift buildings, pyramids, etc and they don't crumble under their own weight then does that mean the building, pyramid, etc is far lighter than we think?
Anyway, Superman got the tectonic plate feat. Unless you want to argue that's an outlier. And if so then we have to do so to all other characters just to be fair.
What's funny is that you didn't realize that he was mocking your argument style.
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
😂You really want to go on for a few more pages about nothing. I stated I did the math wrong initially. I already said I was ready to end the debate. But please lets do this dance a few more pages.
How is posting correct information “nothing”? If you wanna be constantly wrong about facts be my guest, but eventually ppl will just mock you for being always wrong about the things you say.
Just trying to help you out man.
Facts are vague in most of these debates. No one will ever know the exact weight of that particular ship or the weight of a building even.
The premise of the OP is also vague. When you're debating a topic that initially is already light on facts you cant then say "my facts based on vague facts are right."
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Facts are vague in most of these debates. No one will ever know the exact weight of that particular ship or the weight of a building even.The premise of the OP is also vague. When you're debating a topic that initially is already light on facts you cant then say "my facts based on vague facts are right."
The fact that displacement is used to measure weight is not a vague fact. It’s a fact-fact.
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And I’m not saying “always be right”. Heaven knowns I’ve been wrong quite a few times, too. Just saying do a little research first.
Again, just trying to help you out here.
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Yea Im not disputing that you are right about displacement. Your fact that "its this exact ship" isnt a fact-fact, its an opinion. Thats my point.Do we need to continue this for a few more though?
And that wasn’t the error I was pointing out. How is this so difficult to understand?
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Get worked up over it. That’s what’s difficult to understand.
Who’s getting worked up? I’m correcting you to help you. You don’t wanna get the reputation as the guy “who talks out of his ass” seeing sad you are new. Next thing you’ll probably get is that ppl send you back to google since you’ve used up whatever credibility you had to start with. A little research goes a long way.
If you can’t get that, then I don’t know how else to explain it to you.
You said that a few times, I admitted a few times I was wrong, you have said the same thing a few times. Now your just beating a dead horse and acting like a jerk under the guise of "trying to help."
Now do you understand what I just said above? Or do I need to repeat it again that I was wrong, and are you now going to say "I was just trying to help."
How much longer we going to do this and how much longer are you going to keep saying the same thing, keep saying the same thing. Are you catching my point?
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
You said that a few times, I admitted a few times I was wrong, you have said the same thing a few times. Now your just beating a dead horse and acting like a jerk under the guise of "trying to help."Now do you understand what I just said above? Or do I need to repeat it again that I was wrong, and are you now going to say "I was just trying to help."
How much longer we going to do this and how much longer are you going to keep saying the same thing, keep saying the same thing. Are you catching my point?
Well, you had to admit you were wrong “a few times” because you got a few things wrong. You admitted you were wrong with the math, so I let it go. Then you went ahead and tries to correct my definition of displacement so I had to correct you again. Seems being wrong is a common theme with you.
You want to call me a jerk but you act like a defensive child who doesn’t want to be told you were wrong when you clearly were and continuously try to distract from it by immediately trying to change the subject. It should be obvious by now that if you just opted to stop doing that then we would have been done 3 posts ago. But here we are.
If you think I’m being a jerk now, you’re in for a treat when most of the posters here realize that you don’t really know what you’re talking about and simply tear you apart by fact checking your arguments and mocking you for your lack of research.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
.......https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_(fluid)
The weight of an object or substance can be measured by floating a sufficiently buoyant receptacle in the cylinder and noting the water level. After placing the object or substance in the receptacle, the difference in weight of the water level volumes will equal the weight of the object.
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Originally posted by BrolyBlack
220,000 gross tons is about 100,000 tons based on displacement
Guess you can't see when I agreed with you right here about the displacement?
Anything else or are you going to keep going on about nothing?
Thanks for "letting it go" mom.😂
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Guess you can't see when I agreed with you right here about the displacement?Anything else or are you going to keep going on about nothing?
Thanks for "letting it go" mom.😂
Funny thing is, you quoted the wrong posts. That’s literally when you disagreed with me about displacement. Are you being wrong on purpose now?
I’m not your mom, but maybe you can ask her to help you do your research? Might help, between the two of you, she may be the better one at using google.
Editing since you did a quick edit right before I clicked quote.
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
No that was me agreeing with you. How many times are you going to keep saying "do you research?" Just asking.Its like you cant help yourself, you cant take the win, you have to keep on.
No, you stated before that post that displacement weight is only used when it is in water THEN stated that gross tonnage and displacement is different by comparing the values of the two. That is disagreeing. Either you forgot what you said or you’re now just being dishonest.
I’m not trying to “win†here, but you have a lousy attitude and I just feel like I should point it out, if you grow up and just take someone correcting you and accepting it without being defensive, then you’ll be treated like an adult.