Is Australia the real Land of the Free? Britain and the US, may have had their time.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Geez. Have you considered pulling a punch or two? I'm sure he's sufficiently quenched.

EDIT: Fixed your f*ck up you're welcome.

Just noticed. Yup, I f*cked up that quote.

Originally posted by dadudemon
In other words, you don't have freedom of speech.

And, like I said, among the G20, it's among the worst when it comes to speech.

http://www.findlaw.com.au/articles/4529/do-we-have-the-right-to-freedom-of-speech-in-austr.aspx

What? Are you living in the Victoria Desert? How could you not know about Australia's weirdly restrictive internet laws and internet censorship?

https://www.efa.org.au/censorship/

And it made the rounds on the internet on places like reddit when other western countries mocked Australia for banning small-breasted women and "female ejaculation" porn.

https://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/australia-bans-small-breasts/

And your porn cannot have people peeing. crylaugh

What absurdly weird laws.

But I guess you weren't aware of any of this. The censorship, your oddly specific porn laws. The restrictions. You didn't know that some people were calling it The Great Firewall of Australia?

http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1995615,00.html

And you can look up the government owned and controlled black list, as well. Obviously, governments black listing websites is not a pro-freedom endeavor.

It doesn't work. The laws were created to reduce violence in Australia. That didn't happen. A bunch of idiots got together and wanted to make a feel-good law following a mass-shooting. That ended up doing nothing to reduce homicides. You can support idiocy, sure. But know you're giving up freedom and spending tax payer dollars on a regulation that doesn't even work.

You weren't aware that as recently as 2016, protests went all the way to Australia's high-court because people weren't allowed to protest?

And you weren't aware of this?

YouTube video

Dude, I'm an average Joe...middle-class Australian...not rich, not poor just an every day citizen, single father with everyday problems.

You can't compare the average Australian with the NZ govt wanting to sue the ABC for defamation & then claim, "Australia doesn't have a Freedom Of Speech."

Weirdly restrictive internet laws???
Once again as an average Australian I have access to all worldwide & mainstream porn sites that are just as available in America too.
These sites show Golden Shower & scat videos.
We also have access to bestiality sites.
None of them are banned or censored.

Small breasted women or teens?
Pretty obvious reasoning that they may be banned/censored simply because the age of these women/teens can not be verified.
But once again you just have to type in "small ****" & you'll get your share of videos.
And female ejaculation...once again, just type in "Squirting."

Not gonna bother getting into a gun debate.
All I'm gonna say is the last thing I fear walking the streets is getting shot at or becoming a victim in a mass shooting.

As a parent the notion of a mass shooting at my son's school is absurd. The notion of debating whether teachers have to arm themselves is absurd. The notion of bullet proof kevlar back-packs is absurd.

2016 protests that went all the way to the high court???

And yet you provide one link regarding that Canadian shock jock whose tour to Australia was to promote & incite bigotry.
She deliberately goes to a Muslim based community & wants to film outside a mosque & is quoted as saying, "...with the sole intention to criticise Islam."

Then looks at the camera claiming it's a No Go Zone & her rights for Free Speech is being violated.

Prior to her touring, there was another shock jock from America promoting chauvinism & basic bigotry...most of the major venues cancelled his shows due to public backlash as well as several universities he was supposed to "lecture" at.

Police resources & man hours were wasted following both shock jocks through out the city to protect both the shock jocks & the public protesters that gathered.The male shock jock was personally billed for wasting police resources & he cut short his tour & left without paying.

The high ranking police officer in the video you showed was just doing his job trying to defuse a potential volatile situation that the female shock jock was obviously trying to incite.

How the hell can you translate that as illegal to gather in public much less label it as a protest???

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Dude, I'm an average Joe...middle-class Australian...not rich, not poor just an every day citizen, single father with everyday problems.

You can't compare the average Australian with the NZ govt wanting to sue the ABC for defamation & then claim, "Australia doesn't have a Freedom Of Speech."

Weirdly restrictive internet laws???
Once again as an average Australian I have access to all worldwide & mainstream porn sites that are just as available in America too.
These sites show Golden Shower & scat videos.
We also have access to bestiality sites.
None of them are banned or censored.

Small breasted women or teens?
Pretty obvious reasoning that they may be banned/censored simply because the age of these women/teens can not be verified.
But once again you just have to type in "small ****" & you'll get your share of videos.
And female ejaculation...once again, just type in "Squirting."

Not gonna bother getting into a gun debate.
All I'm gonna say is the last thing I fear walking the streets is getting shot at or becoming a victim in a mass shooting.

As a parent the notion of a mass shooting at my son's school is absurd. The notion of debating whether teachers have to arm themselves is absurd. The notion of bullet proof kevlar back-packs is absurd.

2016 protests that went all the way to the high court???

And yet you provide one link regarding that Canadian shock jock whose tour to Australia was to promote & incite bigotry.
She deliberately goes to a Muslim based community & wants to film outside a mosque & is quoted as saying, "...with the sole intention to criticise Islam."

Then looks at the camera claiming it's a No Go Zone & her rights for Free Speech is being violated.

Prior to her touring, there was another shock jock from America promoting chauvinism & basic bigotry...most of the major venues cancelled his shows due to public backlash as well as several universities he was supposed to "lecture" at.

Police resources & man hours were wasted following both shock jocks through out the city to protect both the shock jocks & the public protesters that gathered.The male shock jock was personally billed for wasting police resources & he cut short his tour & left without paying.

The high ranking police officer in the video you showed was just doing his job trying to defuse a potential volatile situation that the female shock jock was obviously trying to incite.

How the hell can you translate that as illegal to gather in public much less label it as a protest???

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Dude, I'm an average Joe...middle-class Australian...not rich, not poor just an every day citizen, single father with everyday problems.

You can't compare the average Australian with the NZ govt wanting to sue the ABC for defamation & then claim, "Australia doesn't have a Freedom Of Speech."

You can protest as much as you want (actually, you can't, you're in Australia and might get thrown in jail for that, lol!) but actual legal pros have analyzed this and determined it's pretty terrible compared to other G20 nations. Say hello to China.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Weirdly restrictive internet laws???
Once again as an average Australian I have access to all worldwide & mainstream porn sites that are just as available in America too.
These sites show Golden Shower & scat videos.
We also have access to bestiality sites.
None of them are banned or censored.

Protest all you want. Get upset all you want. You still have a Great Wall of Australia, guides on the internet on how to bypass Australias state-controlled firewalls, blacklisted websites (some of which have been shown to not be a problem unless you're an incumbent and want to stay in power), and have you weird censorship laws.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Small breasted women or teens?
Pretty obvious reasoning that they may be banned/censored simply because the age of these women/teens can not be verified.
But once again you just have to type in "small ****" & you'll get your share of videos.
And female ejaculation...once again, just type in "Squirting."

Complain all you want, laws laws laws.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Not gonna bother getting into a gun debate.
All I'm gonna say is the last thing I fear walking the streets is getting shot at or becoming a victim in a mass shooting.

K.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
How the hell can you translate that as illegal to gather in public much less label it as a protest???

No comment on my part necessary. No amount of mental gymnastics necessary. The video speaks for itself. Nothing you can do about it no matter what you try to say. Evidence is very easy to see. 😉

There's a reason I've had a few employees over the years move to the US, from Australia.Got tired of the borderline totalitarian and 1984 type government stuff. And I'm glad to have those people here, too: smart people, highly educated. Thanks for sending us some of your best and brightest. Got anymore?

ddm: Cites multiple sources that prove everything he said true.
Esau Cairn: States that he never noticed it, thus all your official sources must be lying.

Everyone else: This is like watching an adult try and explain things to a 2 year old.

I had gathered the impression that Australia was a weird state and this discussion has only increased that previous notion