Originally posted by Silent Master
Just like everytime Ozy moved in the rest of the movie fell far below bullet-time.You're just a hypocrite.
Ozy doesn't need to move his hand faster than a bullet unless there is a bullet coming.
Again Hela was trying to kill, therefore she was using her full strength (you even see her face grimace with effort at times).
If a punch is coming towards me then why in the hell do I have to move as fast a bullet to stop it?
Originally posted by h1a8
Ozy doesn't need to move his hand faster than a bullet unless there is a bullet coming.Again Hela was trying to kill, therefore she was using her full strength (you even see her face grimace with effort at times).
If a punch is coming towards me then why in the hell do I have to move as fast a bullet to stop it?
None of Hela's other showings contradict breaking Mjlonir, she was overpowering Thor with a single arm.
Originally posted by Nevan
He wasn't moving anywhere near as fast as a bullet the first time he got shot either.None of Hela's other showings contradict breaking Mjlonir, she was overpowering Thor with a single arm.
You you didn't understand anything I said.
I'll repeat.
He doesn't need to move his hand fast as a bullet to defend against attacks that are far slower. It would be incredibly stupid to do so.Think about it.
2nd. Every strike, throw, action Hela did took far less force than crushing Mjolnir. Look at distance she threw people, look at the effects of people she struck (they wasn't koed or killed), etc.
Originally posted by h1a8
You you didn't understand anything I said.
I'll repeat.
He doesn't need to move his hand fast as a bullet to defend against attacks that are far slower. It would be incredibly stupid to do so.Think about it.2nd. Every strike, throw, action Hela did took far less force than crushing Mjolnir. Look at distance she threw people, look at the effects of people she struck (they wasn't koed or killed), etc.
So Ozy doesn't need to move as fast as a bullet if hes not against a bullet, but Hela has to hit with Mjolnir+ level force every time she attacks, even when shes not trying to destroy Mjolnir? You're literally applying the rule to Hela and ignoring it for Ozy. Its blatant too. You're not even trying to hide your lies and bias.
Originally posted by h1a8
He doesn't need to move his hand fast as a bullet to defend against attacks that are far slower. It would be incredibly stupid to do so.Think about itAlso Ozy perceived time very slowly when he was attempted to be assassinated.
You ignored the part about Hela. Are You saying she has to hit with Mjolnir+ strength every time she hits something or someone despite not trying to destroy Mjolnir? Since Ozy doesn't need to move as fast as a bullet when hes not trying to dodge one?
Originally posted by KingD19
You ignored the part about Hela. Are You saying she has to hit with Mjolnir+ strength every time she hits something or someone despite not trying to destroy Mjolnir? Since Ozy doesn't need to move as fast as a bullet when hes not trying to dodge one?
Yes because she kills and has exhibited effort in her physical endeavors.
She literally has hit people and thrown people without even koing them, and some of this is with effort.
Something to note about Hela's feat: she caught Mjolnir and OVER THE COURSE OF A FEW SECONDS crushed it. As far as I know, Hela never attempted to do something similar to Thor. Her punches and kicks only had a split second of contact with her target and the only time she ever grabbed Thor in her grip, she didn't seem intent on trying to crush him.
What I'm trying to say is, you can't compare the strength of her crushing Mjolnir over a few seconds to the strength of her strikes delivered in a split second. It's not like Hela destroyed Mjolnir by punching it.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Something to note about Hela's feat: she caught Mjolnir and OVER THE COURSE OF A FEW SECONDS crushed it. As far as I know, Hela never attempted to do something similar to Thor. Her punches and kicks only had a split second of contact with her target and the only time she ever grabbed Thor in her grip, she didn't seem intent on trying to crush him.What I'm trying to say is, you can't compare the strength of her crushing Mjolnir over a few seconds to the strength of her strikes delivered in a split second. It's not like Hela destroyed Mjolnir by punching it.
People want to equate her crushing feat as proof of her strength in general (striking, lifting, etc). She could have crushed Thor's throat with utmost ease if we apply the Mjolnir feat. But she didn't have the strength in that scene to do so because she decided to throw Thor and kill him by stabbing him.
Originally posted by h1a8
People want to equate her crushing feat as proof of her strength in general (striking, lifting, etc). She could have crushed Thor's throat with utmost ease if we apply the Mjolnir feat. But she didn't have the strength in that scene to do so because she decided to throw Thor and kill him by stabbing him.
Well yes, grip strength is actually a good indicator of one's general strength. So her ability to crush Mjolnir is definitely a valid strength feat. I don't see why you have a problem with this.
Hela never tried to crush Thor's throat. She grabbed him by the throat to stop him from moving, and Thor was completely helpless to get out of her grip. Let me repeat that: A big guy like Thor, using his entire body's strength was unable to break free of Hela's grip on his throat. Couldn't even move away from the spot. That alone should tell you just how strong she is already.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Well yes, grip strength is actually a good indicator of one's general strength. So her ability to crush Mjolnir is definitely a valid strength feat. I don't see why you have a problem with this.Hela never tried to crush Thor's throat. She grabbed him by the throat to stop him from moving, and Thor was completely helpless to get out of her grip. Let me repeat that: A big guy like Thor, using his entire body's strength was unable to break free of Hela's grip on his throat. Couldn't even move away from the spot. That alone should tell you just how strong she is already.
So if you equate grip strength to all other strength then you must conclude that the Mjolnir feat is an outlier.
Her holding Thor like that isn't sufficient enough strength to crush Mjolnir.
And that feat can be done if someone is just twice as strong as the other person.
And like I said, she did not have the strength to crush Thor's throat in that scene.